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Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: Yesterday at 10:43:42 PM »

General Discussion / Re: An appeal
« on: Yesterday at 12:12:40 AM »
You wing nuts killed it with your unrelenting crazy outrageous bullshit.  You were warned, so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise.
--No surprise here, believe me. I've learned from years of experience that if you confront a liberal with reason, he will invariably finish by running for the hills. You need only look around you to see the results.

General Discussion / Re: An appeal
« on: February 18, 2019, 02:48:03 PM »
I do believe this forum has died a natural death.
It has exposed the ugly truth about the extreme
left wing agenda that normal average people reject.
--It hasn't died. It's just going through a cyclical slump. If Trump were to loose the next election to a democrat, they'd all come swarming back here like flyboys to shit. I fully expect to see a resurgence for one reason or another.

General Discussion / An appeal
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:53:30 PM »
Some of you here from time to time mention other forums you visit. I wonder if you'd mind givin' me a link to some of those places. Don't get me wrong. I'm not lookin' to get out of here. This place is pretty much my home base at this point. It's just that I have so much common ground with those left here that I can't get the mental stimulation I crave. There must be a forum with some sane liberals on it that are capable of carrying on a conversation without havin' a meltdown. I promise that if you just give me a link I'll keep it entirely confidential. No one will have to know that you let me in.

Thank you.

Race and Racism / Re: POLL: Question for any liberals who may still be here
« on: February 17, 2019, 07:00:43 PM »
Are you hoping Smollett gets a pass on this??
--Absolutely not. I'm hoping to see him spend some time in our mundane county correctional facility instead of his fancy upscale Streeterville apartment. I just know how these things go though where liberals are involved.

Start a liberal forum of your own.
--Only problem with that is that I wouldn't be invited.

I don't think Pepsi would do it, nor would he invest enough time to police it.
--Nor should he as far as I'm concerned. Pity we can't drum up a little more opposing interest here. Pepsi's been put in the awkward position of hosting one of the most conservative forums on the internet.

For myself, I'm no longer participating in these things, for a couple of reasons.  I think a liberal only forum would be very boring,
--I think any one-sided forum would be boring. Just look what goes on around here currently.

but at the same time I no longer have any desire to deal with these right-wing crazies.
--If you don't have the desire to deal with a particular entity then by all means you should withdraw.   

I also had a very major, very rough surgery a little over a month ago to have an abdominal aortic aneurysm repaired, right around my kidneys.  I'm still recovering from it.  They had to cut me wide open, move my internal organs out of the way, clamp off the aorta above and below the kidneys, and cut out and replace the weak section of the aorta at the point just above where it branches off into the legs.  It was serious enough that it has refocused me toward what is important in life, and away from what is not.
--Sorry to hear that. My wife had an aortic repair done about 15 years ago. It dissected while she was on the operating table and nearly killed her. They had to repair it from end to end and she lost circulation to her legs for several hours which caused permanent nerve damage to her feet. She can no longer wear anything more substantial on her feet than flip-flops. It hasn't diminished the importance of social dialogue for her though.

I don't have an answer for my former reason for ceasing participation, except to just stop.  If this were my forum, I think I would just shut it down and go on with my life, because they have completely overrun it with their stupidity and it is now just one more avenue for them to spread their bullshit in an unrestrained manner.
--I'm always up for an intelligent conversation. Not too many takers these days, but I'm here if any one ever feels up to it.

Take care, and au revoir.
--Au revoir implies we'll be seeing you again. That's fine by me. Try to bring some friends with you though upon your return.

Race and Racism / Re: POLL: Question for any liberals who may still be here
« on: February 17, 2019, 04:41:51 PM »
It has already been released that Smollett paid the two Nigerian brothers $3500 to stage the attack. He also faces 3 years in prison for his staged Hate Crime.

Prisoners are gonna love him!!  ;D
--It's been alleged but he'll still get his day in court - if it ever gets that far. Liberals don't like things like this playing out. Hollywood and the media have a way of twisting the truth to where they need it to go. Remember that Al Sharpton launched his career with a case like this and he's currently one of the idiots stepping up to say what a disgrace this is. Normal people shouldn't hold their breath on this one.

Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:47:19 AM »

Race and Racism / POLL: Question for any liberals who may still be here
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:36:18 AM »
I don't see any other options, but if you have any please feel free to offer them.

"This is America in 2019:

Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 17, 2019, 12:35:42 AM »

In The News / Re: MAGA assault
« on: February 16, 2019, 08:44:43 PM »
This claim being made on 'conservaitvedailynews' "that there is no report of that being said", what is this backed up with?   I don't see it being correlated in the other stories.     It links to the DailyBeast article which says ": Smollett told authorities his attackers yelled “MAGA country.” linked to the ABC article which says "Smollett, 36, was walking alone in the 300-block of East North Water Street around 2 a.m. when two people he didn't know started yelling racial and homophobic slurs at him, police said. He told Chicago police that the attackers yelled "MAGA country," said Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi."
--Our city has been brought to the brink of bankruptcy by the democrat idiots who have been running the place for the past century. The current democrat idiot in the Mayor’s office is trying to dig his way out of it by extorting funds out of the already much put upon citizens through such things as red light cameras, 7 cent tax on plastic bags provided by merchants, municipal tax on liquor, pop, gas, etc. They have shackled the hands of the Police with idiot liberal policies that make police work next to impossible to execute. The last thing we need is this Hollywood piece of crap hip-hopping in here and staging a fake crime which in itself is a hate crime against heterosexual white men. We have enough home grown crime without liberals wasting our time and resources to amuse themselves with their legendary hatred of normal people. I hope this punk lands in Cook County jail where he’ll get three squares a day all the sex he can handle (plus some that he can’t).

Rope found around Jussie Smollett's neck purchased by 2 brothers: Sources

FEB 16, 2019

The two brothers who were interrogated by police investigating the alleged attack on Jussie Smollett purchased the rope that was found around the "Empire" actor's neck, sources told ABC News Saturday.

Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo agreed to cooperate with authorities after detectives confronted them with evidence that they bought the rope -- allegedly used in an attack that Smollett described to police as laced with racial and homophobic slurs -- at an ACE Hardware store, sources said.

Detectives have now shifted the investigation to determining whether Smollett made up the entire story, sources said.

After initially considered persons of interest, the brothers were detained and become potential suspects, police said. When they were threatened with to be charged with battery and hate crimes, they agreed to work with detectives, the sources said.

The dramatic shift in the probe is the latest in the fast-changing story that started with Smollett reporting to police that he was attacked in the early morning hours of Jan. 29.

By Saturday evening, however, Chicago police said they were "eager to speak to Jussie Smollett" after the interrogation of the Osundairo brothers.

"We have been in touch with Smollett's attorneys," said Chicago Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told ABC News.

Guglielmi said the department contacted the actor's lawyers Friday night.

"We made our intentions clear," he said.

Early Saturday, after the brothers were released, police said they had new information that “could change the story entirely.”

Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, confirmed by police as those seen in surveillance images from the night of the alleged incident, were arrested on Wednesday night and interviewed by detectives in the following days.

Based on the video evidence that police discovered, it did not indicate anyone else was there at the scene of the alleged incident, police say.

But on Saturday, after their release the night before, police said they were no long potential suspects and again persons of interest, saying that they may still have information that is helpful to the investigation.

Smollett told police that on Jan. 29 he was walking outside when he was attacked by two men. The attackers shouted racist and homophobic slurs before hitting him, pouring “an unknown chemical substance” on him — possibly bleach — and wrapping a rope around his neck, he told detectives.

Police confirmed phone records show that during the attack, Smollett was on the phone with Brandon Moore, his music manager. Both claim that the alleged attackers yelled "MAGA country."

While police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said on Saturday that he could not speak on what the new information was, he said that the break from detectives has “shifted the trajectory” of the investigation. Though he did not say whether Smollett spoke to the men that night — one of them had previously appeared on “Empire” — he said it will also be central to the investigation whether they spoke to or saw Smollett.

Police raided the home of the brothers Wednesday night to search for possible evidence and retrieved shoes, electronic devices, bleach and a red hat, among other items, according to photos of an inventory log confirmed to ABC News. The inventory log, first reported by a local CBS station, also contained a description for an item saying "Script-Empire."

It’s unclear whether forensic results have come back on any of the seized items on the inventory log.

Police confirmed that the two men, who are U.S. citizens of Nigerian descent, are brothers. They also said that the two “have a relationship with [Jussie].”

On Friday, as interviews with the two men continued, Guglielmi said that “the alleged victim is being cooperative at this time and continues to be treated as a victim, not a suspect.”

He also said that there was “no evidence to say that this is a hoax.”


Can we have a sane liberal only subforum, free from right wing cult garbage?
--I'd have no objection - as long as the liberals came out of their self-imposed segregation from time to time to engage the others here. Your biggest problem at the moment is that there are next to no liberals left here, having all fled since the last presidential election. I find that peculiar. I for one would like them all to come out of hiding. They have nothing to fear from me (unless they have a problem with reason).

You would need to block the morons. If you want to block me from their garbage I have no problem. In fact I have them all on ignore.

Thank you.
--A first rate example of liberal tolerance and diversity.

Thank you, BaGua.

Economy and Finance / Re: Trump prosperity update
« on: February 15, 2019, 09:38:39 PM »
Dow jumps nearly 450 points, clinches 8th straight weekly gain

Fred Imbert
Michael Sheetz
Feb 15, 2019

Stocks surged on Friday amid increasing hopes for a U.S.-China trade deal as equities posted another solid weekly gain.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average jumped 443.86 points to 25,883.25 as J.P. Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs outperformed. The S&P 500 gained 1.1 percent to close at 2,775.60, led by the energy and industrials sectors. The Nasdaq Composite advanced 0.6 percent to end the day at 7,472.41.

Energy shares were boosted by higher oil prices. West Texas Intermediate futures rose 2.2 percent to $55.59 per barrel.

Bank stocks also rose broadly. The SPDR S&P Bank ETF (KBE) climbed 2.25 percent. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Bank of America each advanced 2.54 percent or more.

The 30-stock Dow's eight-week winning streak is its longest since the one ending Nov. 3, 2017. The Nasdaq also posted its eighth consecutive weekly gain. The S&P 500, meanwhile, closed its seventh weekly gain in eight. The indexes rose at least 2.4 percent each this week.

"The market is just getting rational again and simply rebounding from an irrational sell-off last fall," said Craig Callahan, president at Icon Funds. He said the market was brought down late last year by fears of a Chinese economic hard landing, worries that a slowdown in China could spread around the world and concern over tighter Federal Reserve monetary policy.

"We think this is just those fears subsiding and the market being rational again," said Callahan. "The China trade talks are helping with the first one."

Chinese President Xi Jinping said trade talks between the U.S. and China will continue next week in Washington. This comes after a U.S. trade delegation led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer was in Beijing this week.

China and the U.S. are trying to strike a trade deal before an early March deadline. If a deal is not reached by then, additional U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods could take effect. President Donald Trump, however, is considering pushing back the deadline by 60 days to give negotiators more time to come up with a deal.

"If there is a resolution, you've got a lot of market participants who are anticipating a big pop-up. That's why we continue to see money into the equity market as well," said Daniel Deming, managing director at KKM Financial.

The moves Friday come after the Dow and S&P 500 fell on much weaker-than-forecast retail sales numbers. Data from the Commerce Department showed U.S. retail sales contracted by 1.2 percent in December, the largest monthly fall since September 2009.

On the data front Friday, industrial production for January fell 0.6 percent. Economists, however, expected an increase of 0.3 percent. Consumer sentiment data for February, meanwhile, topped expectations.


Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 15, 2019, 05:44:52 PM »

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