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General Discussion / Re: Temporary absence
« on: March 05, 2019, 11:04:44 PM »
It's kind of an annual thing for me CJ.

Care for a pancake?

Religion / Re: Cupich Watch
« on: March 05, 2019, 10:24:53 PM »

Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th.
March 5, 2019

Cdl. Cupich carries on Cdl. Bernardin's gay legacy

There is a reason why Cdl. Blase Cupich was handpicked for the archdiocese of Chicago by the disgraced Theodore McCarrick and Cdl. Donald Wuerl, former archbishop of Washington. His hypocritical spirit made him suitable to keep a lid on the homosexual current begun in Chicago by Cdl. Joseph Bernardin as its former archbishop.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò testified in August that the appointment of Cupich to Chicago was "orchestrated by McCarrick, Maradiaga and Wuerl." He adds that Cupich's name was "not among those presented by the Nunciature for Chicago."

Viganò further testifies to the hypocritical manner in which Cupich covers for homosexual abuse. His following remarks are in reference to an interview Cupich gave to America magazine that month:

Cupich "oddly" made reference to the results of research carried out at the height of the sexual abuse of minors crisis in the early 2000s, while he "candidly" ignored that the results of that investigation were totally denied by the subsequent Independent Reports by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in 2004 and 2011, which concluded that, in cases of sexual abuse, 81% of the victims were male.
Church Militant reported last August on the 2012 investigation started at Holy Apostles Seminary in the archdiocese of Hartford, Connecticut. The investigation was conducted by Fr. John Lavers, who confirmed to Church Militant that Chicago's Casa Jesus seminary was set up by Bernardin as a gay pipeline for recruiting and channeling homosexual seminarians from Latin America to Chicago.

One priest that came through Casa Jesus was 39-year-old Rev. Diego Berrío Barrera, S.T.L., J.C.L., from Columbia. Berrío was caught in Miami engaging in gay sex with another priest who was also from Columbia and working in Chicago as an intern. Just prior to being outed as a homosexual predator, Berrío had been confirmed as a judge of Chicago's marriage tribunal.


Birmingham school stops LGBT lessons after parents protest
Hundreds of children withdrawn from Parkfield community school for day

A primary school that taught pupils about homosexuality as part of a programme to challenge homophobia has stopped the lessons after hundreds of children were withdrawn by parents in protest.

Parkfield community school in Saltley, Birmingham, has been the scene of weekly protests over the lessons, which parents claim are promoting gay and transgender lifestyles.

In a letter to parents, the school said: “Up to the end of this term, we will not be delivering any No Outsiders lessons in our long-term year curriculum plan, as this half term has already been blocked for religious education (RE). Equality assemblies will continue as normal and our welcoming No Outsiders ethos will be there for all.”

On Friday about 600 Muslim children, aged between four and 11, were withdrawn from the school for the day, parents said. The school would not confirm the number.

The school made clear that it had never intended to continue the No Outsiders lessons this half term and confirmed that the lessons would resume only after a full consultation with every parent.

Last month, the Guardian reported that the assistant headteacher of the school was forced to defend the lessons after 400 predominantly Muslim parents signed a petition calling for them to be dropped from the curriculum.

Andrew Moffat, who was awarded an MBE for his work in equality education, said he was threatened and targeted via a leaflet campaign after the school piloted the No Outsiders programme. Its ethos is to promote LGBT equality and challenge homophobia in primary schools.

Moffat, the author of Challenging Homophobia in Primary Schools who is currently shortlisted for a world’s best teacher award, resigned from another primary school – Chilwell Croft academy, also in Birmingham – after a similar dispute with Muslim and Christian parents.

Parents have been protesting outside the Saltley school, which is rated as outstanding by Ofsted. At one protest they held signs that read “say no to promoting of homosexuality and LGBT ways of life to our children”, “stop exploiting children’s innocence”, and “education not indoctrination”.

Children from reception age through to year six were being taught five No Outsiders lessons a year, each one covering topics to meet requirements in the Equality Act. Books being read by the pupils include Mommy, Mama and Me, and King & King – stories about same-sex relationships and marriages.

However, after the inclusion of the programme in the curriculum, Moffat, who is in a civil partnership, faced protests and the removal of children from the school.

The school appealed to parents to stop the protests, saying they were “upsetting and disruptive” for the children.

In a letter to the parents, the trustee board of Excelsior Multi Academy Trust, which runs the school, confirmed that after a meeting between Andrew Warren, the regional schools commissioner for the West Midlands, parents, the trust, and Liam Byrne MP, it was decided that a full consultation would take place with parents.

The letter said: “The discussions were a helpful first step and identified the key issues that are concerning parents, including the ethos, the books, the age appropriateness, the lessons and the assemblies. The agreed outcome of the meeting was the need to have a discussion with the school community about the No Outsiders curriculum and how it should be delivered.”

The issue was first raised by Fatima Shah, who pulled her 10-year-old daughter out of the school, saying children were too young to be learning about same-sex marriages and LGBT rights in the classroom.

“We are not a bunch of homophobic mothers,” she said. “We just feel that some of these lessons are inappropriate. Some of the themes being discussed are very adult and complex and the children are getting confused.

“They need to be allowed to be children rather than having to constantly think about equalities and rights.”

Shabana Mahmood, the MP for Birmingham Ladywood, spoke out after parents in her constituency complained that primary schools were teaching their children about same-sex relationships.

She said parents did not oppose sex and relationship education, but felt their children were too young for some of the things being taught.

Speaking in a Commons debate, Mahmood said: “None of my constituents is seeking particular or differential opt-outs at secondary school level. It is all about the age appropriateness of conversations with young children in the context of religious backgrounds.”

Mahmood, who has backed gay rights legislation in the Commons including voting for same-sex marriage, said the government should ensure the rights of minorities were protected, but that included the rights of people with orthodox religious views, including some Jews and Christians as well as some Muslims.

However, the chief inspector of Ofsted, Amanda Spielman, supported the school, saying it was vital children knew about “families that have two mummies or two daddies”.

Byrne, whose constituency includes the school, has suggested parents, faith leaders in the Muslim community and the LGBT rights group Stonewall could work together on a curriculum.

The schools minister Nick Gibb said it was important for schools to take the religious beliefs of their pupils into account when they decide to deliver certain content to ensure topics were handled appropriately.


General Discussion / Temporary absence
« on: March 05, 2019, 10:13:19 PM »
I just want everyone to know that I'm taking a few weeks off after tonight. To be clear - I'm not going anywhere. I'm simply taking a break. I'll be back near the end of April. Hopefully you'll all still be around when I get back (and Pepsi will have turned the snow off).

I doubt they want you spreading more stupidity there.
--Some sort of private club for liberals, eh? Sounds pretty dull. but I still wouldn't mind taking a look around.

We're using IM2's and Flyboy's websites.
--URLs please?

Religion / The plot thickens (or rather, it unravels)
« on: February 28, 2019, 12:09:31 AM »

Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 28, 2019, 12:00:55 AM »


the truth about Cohen is that he's a lying scumbag.  But do you ever stop to remember WHO he was a lying scumbag FOR?  He would still be a lying scumbag, lying FOR Trump and covering up his infidelities and potential crimes if he hadn't been busted.

How do you think that the fact that Cohen is a lying scumbag makes Trump look good...or innocent?

(i haven't gotten back into the habit of writing in lower case so bear with me)

--Hey dagon! Where da hell ya been, man? It looked like all you guys were abandoning yer old friend Pepsi to hold up your collective end of the discussion here by himself. Where's da gratitude? Good to see ya back, though. Hope yer gonna stick around awhile. Your side needs some intelligent input here. The mopes that have been tryin' to fill in the void are sorry impostors of old Newsrake friends - and they are pathetic impostors at that. Don't be a stranger (and see if you can't drum up some of the of the veteran liberals. We're dyin' here).

In The News / Re: Senate Dems kill Born alive infant act
« on: February 26, 2019, 10:50:33 PM »

Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 26, 2019, 10:03:06 PM »

Religion / Re: Chronicle of the undoing of the Novus Ordo Lavender Mafia
« on: February 26, 2019, 09:57:48 PM »

In The News / Re: Senate Dems kill Born alive infant act
« on: February 26, 2019, 03:49:37 PM »
The issue is already covered by the 14 Amendment:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Anyone who kills (or pays someone else to kill) a person born in this country is guilty of murdering a U.S citizen who, of course, is guaranteed equal protection under the law.

Religion / Re: News for busy Catholics
« on: February 26, 2019, 01:04:48 AM »

Religion / The plot thickens (or rather, it unravels)
« on: February 23, 2019, 11:51:50 PM »
Keep an eye on this man seen here dining with the "Pope":

His name is Gustavo Vera.


Christine Niles, M.St. (Oxon.), J.D
February 23, 2019

Natacha Jaitt accused close friend of Pope Francis of sex trafficking

BUENOS AIRES ( - The mysterious death of a whistleblower in Argentina is prompting family members to demand an investigation into what they suspect to be murder.

Natacha Jaitt, a model and actress, had been working on outing what she claimed to be a pedophile sex ring among celebrities and elites. At 2 a.m. Saturday, her naked body was found on the bed of a room in the hotel Xanadu in Villa La Ñata in the town of Benavidez. Two men were questioned at the scene: 47-year-old Guillermo Riconi, owner of the Villa, and 48-year-old Raul Velaztiqui, a film producer and the one who placed the call to police on finding her body.

The autopsy report claimed the cause of death was "Heart-respiratory failure (multi-organ failure) that led to pulmonary edema." The autopsy also revealed traces of cocaine in her nasal passages.

According to Spanish magazine Clarìn:

A vehicle, cocaine, a fanny pack and a telephone were seized from the room. It was discovered that at least three more people were with the actress, who were captured by security cameras while fleeing the place, before police arrived. In the video recording you see them throwing a package into a ditch. It is suspected it contained some type of narcotics.

Jaitt's brother and attorney, however, insist she would never have used cocaine because of a medical condition she suffered. Both of them suspect foul play.

"[W]e understand that she may have been a victim of a crime, he [her brother] is afraid that she was the victim of a murder," said Alejandro Cipolla, Jaitt's attorney.

Regarding the autopsy, Cipolla did not participate, but insisted that it be recorded "from start to finish."

On Apr. 5, 2018, Jaitt tweeted: "I'm not going to kill myself, I'm not going to overdose or drown in a bathtub, I'm not going to shoot myself, so if any of this happens, IT WASN'T ME. Save this tweet."

Accusations Against Gustavo Vera
On Argentine daytime TV last year, Jaitt accused Gustavo Vera, a longtime associate of Pope Francis, of running a sex trafficking ring using his anti-trafficking organization as a front group.

"Did you know that [Gustavo Vera] is a pedophile? That he is a trafficker?" Jaitt asked a panelist on the show. "Did you know that he gets brothels shut down and then he keeps them for himself illegally? Did you know that I carried out a study and that I have video records of prostitutes talking about it ... ?"

Jaitt claimed she had presented her evidence to law enforcement, and went on to detail how she investigated Vera.
"What did I do? Take video, do logistics and follow him for a year," she explained. "Prostitutes from the streets and unfortunately from apartments had to endure being raped and sexually abused for 200, 500 pesos ... in the power of Mr. Vera."

On being challenged by a panelist who is a friend of Vera, Jaitt shot back, "I can prove everything."

Vera is head of La Alameda, an organization that claims to fight sex trafficking in Argentina. He's a longtime associate of Pope Francis, their collaboration going back more than a decade. They first met in 2008, when Vera's organization was going through a difficult time.

              Gustavo Vera (left) with Abp. Jorge Bergoglio (right)

"We needed protection," Vera told People Magazine in 2015, explaining that members of his organization were being assaulted in the streets by criminal groups they had denounced.

"We heard Archbishop Bergoglio give a homily on human trafficking and slavery and decided to approach him," he said.

"From that moment on, we worked together on the streets," Vera said. "And when there was a witness being intimidated by the perpetrators of the crimes, Jorge would make sure to be photographed with that witness to send a clear message: 'We are all standing with this person who has been so brave.'"

Bergoglio nicknamed Vera "God's Trotsky," and Vera made clear his gratitude for Bergoglio's protection: "I am pretty sure Lucas and I would have ended up floating down the river face down had we not had Jorge’s support and involvement in our neighborhood association."

       Gustavo Vera (right) visiting Pope Francis at Casa Santa Marta in 2015

After Bergoglio's elevation to the Holy See, he invited Vera to visit him at Casa Santa Marta, where the pope baptized the children of their mutual friend Lucas Schaerer.

In February 2015, Vera published a private email sent to him from the pontiff, who feared Argentina would soon be afflicted with many of the troubles experienced in Mexico.

Pope Francis still calls Vera once a week.

In the same TV appearance, Jaitt also mentioned Bergoglio's well-documented attempt to defend Fr. Julio César Grassi, a convicted pedophile.

Grassi was found guilty in 2009 of two acts of aggravated assault of a minor, but was allowed to remain free while his appeals went through the court system. During that time he claimed the support of then-Cdl. Bergoglio, president of the bishops of Argentina, who commissioned a leading criminal defense lawyer, Marcelo Sancinetti, to put together a report to exonerate Grassi.

The report, 2,800 pages long, was slammed for its attempts to discredit the victims, Attorney Juan Pablo Gallego, who represented the plaintiffs, saying it was a "scandalous instance of lobbying and exerting pressure on the Court."

The court was unswayed by Bergoglio's attempts to defend Grassi, finding the priest guilty of sex abuse and sentencing him to 15 years in prison.

Judge Carlos Mahiques, among those who received the report, said it was "extremely partial," its goal being "to exert a subtle form of pressure on the judges" to rule in favor of Grassi.
In spite of Bergoglio's public role in commissioning the counter-study on Grassi's behalf, he denied having anything to do with it when questioned. A documentary published in 2018, titled "Sex Abuse in the Church: Code of Silence," revealed an exchange between the pontiff and a journalist asking about Grassi.
"Your Holiness! Your Holiness, in the Grassi case, did you try to influence Argentine justice?"

Pope Francis answered, "No."

"No? Then why did you commission a counter-inquiry?"

The pontiff replied, "I never did," before turning away.

Investigation Into Jaitt's Death
Jaitt had received multiple threats over the past year, and had recently accused two men of raping her. She was also set to appear in court on defamation charges leveled by Vera.

A major investigation is being launched into the cause of Jaitt's death, involving a special team called by the attorney general of San Isidro, Beatriz Molinelli. The team will include several prosecutors as well as the deputy attorney general of San Isidro and a judicial secretary.


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