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Election 2020 / Five biggest lies from the last dem debate
« on: Yesterday at 02:42:48 PM »

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Psycho Talk / Hilliary says Gabbard is a Russian plant
« on: Yesterday at 02:21:35 PM »
cuckoo  cuckoo  cuckoo

She was serious.  What do you guys think?

oh I can't wait for this!!

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Election 2020 / President's Rally Dallas Texas Tonite
« on: October 17, 2019, 08:37:45 PM »
Looks like all of Dallas has shown up.   Gee.    For a guy that is so hated and everyone wants his impeachment, they sure are loving him.

Just in case you want to watch it. LOLOLOL


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General Discussion / The democrat can'tidate to run
« on: October 17, 2019, 03:58:55 PM »
Let's talk about this.    It's such a great field.  Every last one of them makes the case for Trump 2020.  Especially after this last debate....  who do you think is going to make the cut.

Biden.   seriously.  loose cannon perhaps pre-dementia.   The man is showing his age and worse.   His mouth, his remarks, his responses...many don't make sense.    Where he got away with his dodging and weaving and laughing in the Biden Ryan debate, his radical opponents are NOT gonna let him get away with this.   I think they see that he is no competition.    He'll be out soon.  The only thing that keeps him in is his over developed sense of self.    The scandal of his son and the Ukraine and now The UKRAINE saying they gave joe 900,000 is not helping him.   Hunter's interview right before the debate didn't do hunter any good either.  It made them both look dishonest.  Face it.  Joe was Obama's VP because he is stupid and easily led.   I doubt Joe has had a deep thought his entire life.   

this is minor but it is also a clear indication of this man's character.  The story of his wife dying because of a drunk driver.  that is a lie.   the driver was not drinking, and it was not his fault.  Mrs. Biden drove into the path of that truck killing herself and her baby daughter and injuring her two sons.


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Impeachment of Donald J Trump / RNC raises 27.3 million, RECORD
« on: October 17, 2019, 02:23:42 PM »

thanks dummicrats

The Republican National Committee raised a record-setting $27.3 million in September and had $59.2 million cash on hand last month amid the impeachment push against President Trump — which has fueled GOP campaign contributions heading into the 2020 election.

The RNC’s September fundraising haul is the best off-cycle month in the history of both the Republican and Democratic parties. This cycle, to date, the RNC has more than doubled the Democratic National Committee’s fundraising efforts, according to the GOP, which also noted that the Democrats, as of last month, carried $7.3 million in debt.

“While Democrats focus on fighting President Trump, Republicans have prioritized voters and we have another record-breaking fundraising month—the highest ever off-cycle—to show for it,” RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel told Fox News. “Voters are tired of Democrats’ petty politics and baseless witch hunts, and their shameful attacks have only energized our grassroots army and allowed us to lay the groundwork for Republicans to take back the House, expand our majority in the Senate and re-elect President Trump in 2020.”

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In The News / elijah cummings dead
« on: October 17, 2019, 09:15:48 AM »
68 years old.   Like overnight...and now politicians on both sides of that disgusting aisle are making him out to be some kind of hero.    HE MAY have been in his younger days....but he evolved into what he always was.   A womanizing, shifty, corrupt, lying dime a dozen political crook.

You can deal with him LORD, cause no one on this earth has the naus to apply justice.

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The Media / FakeNews ABC refuses to Issue
« on: October 14, 2019, 10:55:34 PM »
 an On-Air Correction to Their Fake News Video

By Nicholas Fondacaro | October 14, 2019 8:51 PM EDT

On Monday, ABC News got caught lying about having a video allegedly showing Turkish troops slaughtering Kurdish civilians in northern Syria, when, in fact, it was video from a gun range in Kentucky. Seemingly thinking a pair of weak apologies on Twitter were enough, the liberal broadcast network refused to correct the record and inform viewers on their journalistic malpractice during that evening’s World News Tonight.

As NewsBusters’ Kristine Marsh reported, Sunday’s World News Tonight teed up the contents of the video as being a product of President Trump’s foreign policy, declaring, “This video right here appearing to be showing Turkey’s military bombing Kurdish civilians in a Syrian border town.” A false claim repeated on Monday’s Good Morning America.

But following the due diligence of Twitter user Wojciech Pawelczyk and a Washington Examiner piece exposing ABC’s fake news, the Twitter accounts of GMA and World News Tonight issued the same copy-and-paste apology:


CORRECTION: We’ve taken down video that aired on “World News Tonight" Sunday and “Good Morning America” this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy. ABC News regrets the error.

 Later that evening, despite anchor David Muir dedicating five minutes and 28 seconds to the fighting in Syria, the network refused to acknowledge their misleading story and correct the record for their millions of viewers. And as the Examiner further reported:

A representative for the Knob Creek Gun Range also told the Washington Examiner that they are still investigating ABC’s reporting, adding further that the images aired by the network "look to be" from their Kentucky property.

It’s hypocritical for ABC to be silent on this error since they often decry when a Republican “refuses to apologize” for something. In 2009, they were appalled that Congressman Joe Wilson wouldn’t apologize for his famous “you lie” outburst against their precious President Barack Obama during the State of the Union. They also didn’t like it then-candidate Donald Trump said he didn’t owe Senator John McCain an apology for disparaging his war hero status because he was captured.

It’s imperative for ABC’s flagship evening news program to correct their mistakes on-air because they’re the largest when it comes to ratings. According to TVNewser, for the week of September 30, World News Tonight raked in 8.2 million viewers. For that same week, TVNewser found Good Morning America came in first with 3.7 million viewers. So, it’s likely that the show misled millions of people while a fraction of them saw the tweets. Let’s see if they’re saving the on-correction for Tuesday morning.

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Politics / Dems Decimated in Louisiana
« on: October 14, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »
Dems Decimated in Louisiana: GOP Gains Senate Supermajority, Dem Governor Now on the Ropes

Guy Benson

 @guypbenson

Posted: Oct 14, 2019 10:20 AM

Dems Decimated in Louisiana: GOP Gains Senate Supermajority, Dem Governor Now on the Ropes

In Louisiana's Saturday election, Republicans had a lot to cheer about.  Among statewide office-holders, the incumbent GOP Lieutenant Governor (68 percent), Attorney General (66 percent), Treasurer (60 percent, and Agricultural Commissioner (58 percent) were all re-elected without the need for a run-off, under the state's 'jungle primary'-style system.  It also appears that the solid Republican majorities in both state legislative chambers will remain intact -- with the GOP expanding its Senate advantage into super-majority territory by picking up a pair of Democratic seats:

Two major statewide races are headed to run-offs, and both are looking pretty good for Team Red.  The incumbent Republican Secretary of State won a plurality of the vote, but didn't reach the bare majority threshold required to stave off the two-way election, scheduled for November 16.  The Democrat in the contest only won about one-third of all votes, but because two other Republican challengers were in the mix -- combining for roughly 25 percent of the aggregate vote -- the sitting officeholder was held under 50 percent.  All in, the trio of GOP candidates won 66 percent of the ballots for this office.  This is going to be a Republican hold.  Then there's the big one: The gubernatorial race.  Democratic incumbent John Bel Edwards, a pro-life moderate, was unable to avoid a runoff, attracting just 46.6 percent of the 'jungle primary' vote.  The two leading Republicans in the contest racked up 51 percent of the vote, with the top GOP vote-getter, businessman Eddie Rispone, advancing to directly challenge the governor in November.  Those are ominous tea leaves for Gov. Edwards, underscored by this trend:

The Communications Director for the Republican Governors Association put out this statement in response to Saturday's results: "No amount of goalpost-moving from Team @JohnBelforLA or @DemGovs can disguise that this was a stunningly poor performance for JBE. Days ago they were confidently predicting he'd beat 50. He lost vote share across the board & didn't even get a majority in his home parish."  A plugged-in Louisiana GOP source tells me that the gubernatorial battle is now leans Republican, adding that "DJT coming down definitely got GOP votes out."  The president certainly did visit ahead of the voting, and he didn't do so quietly. 

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In The News / Gabbard accuses DNC of rigging primaries.
« on: October 10, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »
may skip next debate



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp




 Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, is threatening to boycott next week’s Democratic presidential debate amid accusations that the Democratic National Committee and the media are “rigging” the 2020 primary elections against dark horse candidates like herself.

 Gabbard, who reached the qualification thresholds for next Tuesday’s debate in Ohio, called the qualifications “arbitrary” and said DNC leaders “are trying to hijack the entire election process.” She said she will decide in the next few days whether she will participate in the debate.



 Gabbard’s move to possibly boycott the debate is a double-edged sword for the candidate, as she would miss the opportunity to reach millions of voters tuning into the debate, while the boycott would draw a great deal of attention to her campaign. The Hawaii Democrat did not qualify for September’s DNC debate in Houston, but has met the criteria of 130,000 unique donors and hitting at least 2 percent in four approval polls to qualify for Tuesday’s debate. I'm not a fan of any of the candidates, but for a long time, I have appreciated and admired Gabbard's anti-establishment stance, and her approach to foreign policy and tech censorship. It makes her a female Ron Paul of sorts. Would I vote for her? Most likely not, but I can definitely see why others would.

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In The News / AOC Townhall on climate: eat de babies
« on: October 03, 2019, 09:30:11 PM »
WOw!!  LOL    How long will it take dems to put this on the party platform?


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General Discussion / President embraces wounded Veteran
« on: September 30, 2019, 05:50:31 PM »
very touching.


THIS is a commander in chief.

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Health Care Debate / Dems pass bill giving illegals
« on: September 30, 2019, 04:08:30 PM »
better healthcare than our Veterans.

Monday September, 30th 2019

Dems Pass Bill Giving Illegal Aliens Better Healthcare Than Veterans
By Lawrence Richard - September 30, 2019
 
 Democrats flexed the true might of their majority in the House on Thursday when they voted to give illegal immigrants living in the United States an electronic medical records system that is better than the one currently being used at the Veterans Affairs Administration or the Department of Defense.

“House passes bill to give illegal immigrants e-medical records years ahead of veterans,” American Military News reports.

And:

The House passed the bill, H.R. 3525, U.S. Border Patrol Medical Screening Standards Act, on a vote of 230-184. The bill requires the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol officials to implement an Electronic Health Records (EHR) system, and store and report electronic health records to Congress for all migrants apprehended at the border, according to The Hill.

Just ahead of the vote, the bill’s sponsor, Democratic Congresswoman Lauren Underwood said “overworked Border Patrol officials” were unable to adequately record and transfer an illegal immigrants healthcare information.

<<<Is your big belly really a “swollen colon?”  From stuffing down democrat lies and hate.   Diet and exercise won't get rid of your belly, but this will.   Try some truth, honesty and facts and love for your fellow man.>>>>>
 
“When I was at the border I saw busy, overworked Border Patrol officials having to keep health records on paper. I also saw how these records don’t follow migrants between facilities and transfers of custody,” Underwood said on the House floor.

In a press release following the vote, North Carolina Republican Mark Walker suggested the bill’s passage was unfair to veterans and members of the military as their healthcare record systems were similarly needing improvements.

“The Veterans Administration (VA) will not have similar electronic health records systems in place for nine years and the Department of Defense (DOD) will not have those systems for another five years,” Walker said.

“If we cannot deliver a modern medical record for the men and women who put their lives on the line for us sooner than that, it is impossible to think that we could or should deliver one in a month for those who knowingly enter our country illegally,” Republican Congressman Phil Roe, M.D. said in his own press release. “We should not treat anyone, particularly someone who breaks our laws, better than we treat our heroes.”

A vote to fast-track the new system’s implementation for the VA and DoD was reportedly introduced by House Republicans but was voted down by the Democratic-majority.

From American Military News:

House Republicans proposed an amendment to implement the same rollout of medical records system standards for veterans, but the effort was struck down, according to Rep. Tim Burchett.

Critics also decried the lack of new funding in the bill, which could leave the Border Patrol to bear the costs of the new medical screening procedures out of their existing budget.

“The new requirements are not funded, so DHS would be forced to take funds from other agency efforts including border security, combatting terrorism, stopping drug and human trafficking, and natural disaster response,” Rep. Walker said.

Two Republican congressmen supported the U.S. Border Patrol Medical Screening Standards Act, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Fred Upton of Michigan.

Author: Lawrence Richard

Source: Chicks On Right: Dems Vote To Give Illegal Aliens Better Healthcare System Than What’s At The VA Or DoD

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Impeachment Madness and the Twisted World of NeverTrump

Rage against a president who was just doing his job.
Mon Sep 30, 2019 
Bruce Thornton

Bruce Thornton is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center

The latest in a series of “scandals” that supposedly will finally banish President Trump from the White House has provoked the latest in a series of outbursts from NeverTrump obsessives. Allegations that the president, during a phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, abused his power, violated campaign finance laws, or sullied an upcoming American election by inviting foreign interference, precipitated the latest dudgeon-fest. No one seemed to care that the release of the conversation’s transcript, and the exculpatory protestations of Ukraine’s president have already deflated the “scandal” like a stomped soufflé.

We still have to hear homilies from the Church of NeverTrump, once again trying to turn the president’s blunt, take-no-prisoners, what-you-see-is-what-you-get style into a Constitutional crisis. In fact, Trump was elected because enough voters rejected the vision of politics as the purview of technocratic elites who define “democratic norms,” “presidential decorum,” and “political normality” in terms that happen to suit their tastes, interests, and prejudices.

For them, Trump’s discussion with Zelensky with its alleged implied quid-pro-quo was outrageously out of bounds and unprecedented. So let’s see, the Constitution gives the president wide authority to conduct foreign policy, including interactions with other heads of state. It does not specify by what rules of manners and diplomacy he do so. His only job is to see to the national interests and security of the United States, using whatever tools––except for undeclared war––he finds will achieve those aims.

That is a necessarily broad remit, because interactions with foreign governments involve all manner of leaders, from totalitarian to democratic, and all manner of personalities. Sometimes a carrot is useful, other times a stick. One carrot the U.S. possesses, especially as the world’s most consequential and necessary power, is foreign aid, grants, and loans. There is nothing wrong with leveraging this money and encouraging a foreign leader to reciprocate by proving a service that is deemed necessary for the president to protect our security and interests.

Trump’s critics, of course, will claim that he corrupted this authority to suit his personal political interests, offering Zelensky foreign aid for investigating Joe Biden’s son Hunter.  Marc A. Thiessen has set that record straight:


Keep in mind, when this story broke, The Washington Post reported that “two former U.S. officials” said “Trump's interaction with the foreign leader included a ‘promise’ that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint” . . . .Well, it turns out Trump makes no “promise” anywhere in the transcript. He makes no threats, either. Indeed, it was Zelensky who raised the issue of investigating corruption, not Trump.

Moreover, as Thiessen continues:


NBC's Katy Tur claimed that the transcript shows Trump said, “Will you do me a favor and investigate Vice President Biden’s son?” No, he didn't. When Trump asked Zelensky to “do us a favor,” it had nothing to do with Biden. According to the transcript, he was asking Zelensky to cooperate with an official Justice Department investigation into the origins of the Mueller probe that is being led by U.S. Attorney John Durham, a career prosecutor. A Justice Department spokesman says Durham is “exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.”

In other words, Trump was doing his job, asking his Ukrainian counterpart to help a country that gives it aid get to the bottom of the electoral malfeasance and interference that went on in 2016. You remember, the same pretext for the soft coup waged for three years by the Obama administration and our national security, justice, and police agencies in order to serve rank partisan ends. Nor does the claim that Trump was trying to hamstring a 2020 election opponent pass the laugh-test. I think Trump knows that Biden’s gaffe-a-thon campaign doesn’t need any help in self-destructing.

Speaking of Biden, let’s compare Trump’s supposedly unprecedented violation of “presidential norms” for conducting foreign affairs, with Biden’s apparent strong-arming  of the Ukrainian government officials to fire a prosecutor who was investigating a company that paid his underqualified, underexperienced son $50,000 a month. Here, if things are as they seem, is an explicit act of extortion, not a subliminal quid-pro-quo that has been claimed in Trump’s case, but that in fact didn’t happen.

Of course Trump mentioned Biden’s actions during the general discussion of corruption in intergovernmental business, and he was right to do so. We can’t have our public officials who are conducting foreign policy exploiting public contacts and leverage for private gain, not when the security and interests of the U.S. are involved. And these days, the equality of all before the law, something Dems now consider a relic like whale-bone corsets, desperately needs some reinforcing.

And remember, Biden at the time was still Vice President, conducting foreign policy as the president’s surrogate. His leveraging of aid was not the problem. We should expect reciprocity for our help and foreign aid. What’s unseemly is doing so to benefit financially a family member under the guise of rooting out corruption [sic!]. Worse, when he was challenged about not having the authority to withhold the $1 billion loan guarantee, Biden dared the officials to call the president. They caved, and Obama never said a thing indicating that Biden had talked out turn and wasn’t speaking for the president, thus implicating him. Last year Biden even crowed on camera about the fact that he had bullied Ukrainian officials into doing what he wanted. But for the progressive media, the story elicited a big “meh.”

Like Joe’s efforts in Ukraine, Hunter Biden’s travels with Pop to China, and returning home with a fat contract are mere coincidences––similar to the coincidence that his international business took off only after Biden became the vice president. (It’s interesting, though, that Biden rival Elizabeth Warren hurried to develop conflict-of-interests policies to stop such coincidences). Or maybe these are instances of public corruption as old as the Republic itself. Nor can I, at least, swear definitively one way or the other that all of Hunter Biden’s international business is untainted by nepotistic corruption. The big point here is that the Caesar’s Wife standard that Trump critics employ is considerably more elastic when it comes to progressives, who are always given the benefit of the doubt despite how unsavory the optics, or how abundant the circumstantial evidence.

With Trump, however, it’s not just that he seldom, if ever, is given the presumption of innocence, but that the “evidence” of his alleged transgressions is frequently manipulated, distorted, or invented out of whole cloth. We saw it happen in this latest media fiasco, when the fabricated evidence was publicized as the predicate for an impeachment investigation, and within a few days the transcript of the phone call and the so-called whistleblower’s complaint became available for all to see, making it obvious that the whole affair was full of sound and fury but signified nothing.

That NeverTrumpers continually validate this double-standard, along with their self-righteous blather about “norms” and “decorum,” is what infuriates Trump’s base who are not denizens of the Acela Corridor combine. Indeed, some NeverTrumpers have become unhinged on the topic. Mona Charen, writing about the latest hit on Trump, ends her screed: “But if Trump is twisted and occasionally delusional, partisans who cloak him with excuses and sympathy are exactly what Trump thinks everybody is — corrupt.” There you have it: question-begging personal insults followed by the condemnation of millions of ordinary voters who don’t practice standards of decorum that schoolmarms like Mona Charen preach, but in their own writing serially violate.

Given that Trump didn’t commit a crime or Constitutional violation during the conversation with Zelensky, when someone like Charen speaks that way, or pundit Yuval Levin says Trump’s explanation of the conversation can be believed only if we “don’t think too hard about what our presidents are supposed to be and do,” millions of Trump supporters are going to hear the snarky disdain for them on the part of political mandarins who think only their political class’s manners and decorum are crucial for what  “presidents are supposed to be and do.” Trump may not have their manners, but so far, he has governed far better than Barack Obama, who had the bipartisan, technocratic, insider patter down pat, but pursued policies that weakened our country both domestically and internationally.

Forget the impeachment farce and the ginned-up scandals. The decision we will be facing in a bit more than a year is simple: do you want someone who loves this country, believes it is exceptional, wants it to be great, and has proven it by restoring our international prestige and revitalizing our economy? Or do you want a self-anointed technocrat who disdains our country, obsesses over its alleged crimes, thinks it should be diminished to just one nation among many, will bankrupt it with utopian policies, and wants to surrender its sovereignty to an international cabal of elites just like them?

The choice is stark: either America, or Anti-America.

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The Media / Illegal collusion between Media and Joe Biden
« on: September 29, 2019, 10:59:56 PM »



Problem they have is that he’s spreading truth, like the affidavit of the prosecutor. They don’t want the American public to hear all that. Sure sounds like Biden is asking for campaign help from the media. One might even call that collusion…


Via NY Post:


WASHINGTON – Joe Biden’s presidential campaign is asking top network executives to stop booking ​President Trump’s personal lawyer ​Rudy Giuliani.

Biden campaign officials Anita Dunn and Kate Bedingfield wrote a letter to network news presidents, chief anchors and the executive producers of the Sunday shows for ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and Fox News Channel, Deadline reported.

“We are writing today with grave concern that you continue to book Rudy Giuilani on your air to spread false, debunked conspiracy theories on behalf of Donald Trump,” the letter said.

“While you often fact check his statements in real time during your discussions, that is no longer enough. By giving him your air time, you are allowing him to introduce increasingly unhinged, unfounded and desperate lies into the national conversation.”


LOLOL  Liberals.   YOu can't shoot 'em.   

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Religion / Dems officially voted to become party
« on: September 27, 2019, 10:39:00 PM »
of the 'Non-Religious'

by News Division  · August 26, 2019

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It’s no secret that the Democratic Party is on the wrong side of almost every issue as it relates to a Biblical worldview, but did you know that the DNC just passed an official resolution making it the first party to affiliate with the irreligious? Democrats haven’t been this boldly anti-religion since they literally booed God at the 2012 Convention.

According to the Friendly Atheist, the DNC passed the resolution over the weekend which heralds the “value, ethical soundness and importance” of non-religious Americans.

In God We Trust may be the motto of the United States, but it’s not the heart of the Democratic Party. Maybe this explains why the Democratic party platform is little more than a list of things God hates.

 A pdf of the resolution is hosted at Secular.org (obviously) and can be read here. It states…

WHEREAS, the religiously unaffiliated demographic has tripled in the last two decades, now representing 25% of the overall American population and 35% of those under the age of 30; and

WHEREAS, religiously unaffiliated Americans overwhelmingly share the Democratic Party’s values, with 70% voting for Democrats in 2018, 80% supporting same-sex marriage, and 61% saying immigrants make American society stronger; and

WHEREAS, the religiously unaffiliated demographic represents the largest religious group within the Democratic Party, growing from 19% in 2007 to one in three today; and
 
WHEREAS, the nonreligious have often been subjected to unfair bias and exclusion in American society, particularly in the areas of politics and policymaking where assumptions of religiosity have long predominated; and

WHEREAS, those most loudly claiming that morals, values, and patriotism must be defined by their particular religious views have used those religious views, with misplaced claims of “religious liberty,” to justify public policy that has threatened the civil rights and liberties of many Americans, including but not limited to the LGBT community, women, and ethnic and religious/nonreligious minorities; and

WHEREAS, the Democratic Party is an inclusive organization that recognizes that morals, values, and patriotism are not unique to any particular religion, and are not necessarily reliant on having a religious worldview at all; and

WHEREAS, nonreligious Americans made up 17% of the electorate in 2018 and have the potential to deliver millions more votes for Democrats in 2020 with targeted outreach to further increase turnout of nonreligious voters; andWHEREAS, a record number of openly nonreligious candidates are running for public office;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE recognizes:

1. The value, ethical soundness, and importance of the religiously unaffiliated demographic, a group of Americans who contribute in innumerable ways to the arts, sciences, medicine, business, law, the military, their communities, the success of the Party and prosperity of the Nation; and

2. That religiously unaffiliated Americans are a group that, as much as any other, advocates for rational public policy based on sound science and universal humanistic values and should be represented, included, and heard by the Party.

At least the DNC can acknowledge that un-religious people overwhelming affiliate with the Democratic Party over the Republican Party. Whether it’s good or bad, it’s nonetheless true.

One can only imagine the kind of ethical chaos, impending genocide, and human suffering that will be commonplace if the “humanistic ethics” of the Democratic Party were to triumph in every district and precinct in the United States.

If the Democratic Party wants to continue to alienate religious Americans – especially in the African American and Hispanic community (which are both far more religious than the white liberals who form the largest Democratic demographic), they can go right ahead.

We’ll make room for ethnic minorities in the Republican Party, just like we did during the days of abolition.

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