Bammy's Approval Numbers Not Sinking But PLUMMETTING

[Lightworker]

[Hollybaere]

And yet he still hasn't proven he is an actual Born in the United States citizen either.

Maybe that might have something to do with it?

[Lightworker]

The thing that really jumps out at me in this poll is the same thing that got my attention in the previous one:

How quickly the independents and moderates are deserting him, and in such large numbers.

[ivanm]

The thing that really jumps out at me in this poll is the same thing that got my attention in the previous one:

How quickly the independents and moderates are deserting him, and in such large numbers.

It is fun to pick on the libs but wouldn't it be more satisfying to discuss the issues and to gin up solutions? I guess my years of being in a creative career field is showing as I like to  create solutions to problems, which is what I did as an analyst/progammer in mainframes for 27 years.

[lucy]

Those who felt there would be real change in public policy may be feeling adrift now because there is very little positive change--only more money thrown into the ocean of debt, perhaps...Obama's military stance certainly is like the previous administration....that is one area that people wanted to see change happen for the sake of the economy. He continues taking more control and at the same time giving more control to the very financial institutions that helped cause the fiscal meltdown in the first place, imo.

[lucy]

However, I am not completely convinced that Obama cannot be an effective president. I still see a glimmer of hope for us. If he would turn off the "bubble machine" and the fear-mongering of the BIG PHARMA apparatus....re the FLU.

He should be pushing alternative medicine and vitamins or supplements--healthy nutrition rather than medication, for another thing...people are fat because they are eating more chemicals these days than food, also making people sick as well...sigh/

[ivanm]

However, I am not completely convinced that Obama cannot be an effective president. I still see a glimmer of hope for us. If he would turn off the "bubble machine" and the fear-mongering of the BIG PHARMA apparatus....re the FLU.

He should be pushing alternative medicine and vitamins or supplements--healthy nutrition rather than medication, for another thing...people are fat because they are eating more chemicals these days than food, also making people sick as well...sigh/

I have been experimenting with my prescription drug regimen again.  Several months ago I stopped taking Lipitor for cholestoral because it made me hurt.  Now I am waiting to see if getting off of one of my blood pressure medicines will stop the nightly nasal congestoin and  I think it is working.  I read on the fact sheet for Doxazosin that one of the side effects was nasal congestion.

Darn it if I  could stop taking all this stuff I would have more energy and would feel better.  However it is important that I maintain a lower blood pressure because of my impaired kidney function.  Heck one doesn't know what to believe anymore.

[ivanm]

However, I am not completely convinced that Obama cannot be an effective president. I still see a glimmer of hope for us. If he would turn off the "bubble machine" and the fear-mongering of the BIG PHARMA apparatus....re the FLU.

He should be pushing alternative medicine and vitamins or supplements--healthy nutrition rather than medication, for another thing...people are fat because they are eating more chemicals these days than food, also making people sick as well...sigh/

Obama has some good idea but the costs of these programs is overwhelming all at once.  I realize that many have no insurance or have lost their insurance due to the downturn and lost jobs, but geez, a super comprehensive healthcare plan righr now seems to be overkill in the short run.  Let's hope the  economy recovers and tax revenues pick up or we will be in a worse jam than we are now.

Do you suppose he is going to push and shove the entire term?  He is so busy stumping that I wonder who is minding the store while he is gone.  Obama is more than an active president, he is an activist president. I think that folks will get tired of his constant arm twisting.

[ivanm]

Obama is also an opportunistic president that believes in hitting the people hard while they are down in hopes he can ram thru his expensive programs. Folks are like the Germans pre-Hitler in that they are down and are vulnerable to snake oil salesmen.

No doubt there are many very sick patients without healthcare coverage, but I am betting the average patient needs little more than a visit and prescribed pills.  That has been my case with all but the kldney situation and that did require some expensive tests and a visit to a specialist.

As to over use of the ER, which I agree is not a good way to receive treatment for routine cases or for those that require follow up visits, why can't minor emergency clinics staffed with doctors be use?  We have them here in this area and I once visited a clinic because it was too hard to get an appointment with my local doctor.  I met a licensed phyician who was wanting more patients and had his office right in the clinic. The cost for the first visit was a little more than here at home but I got results and could have become his steady patient.  

The VA has satellite stations across the state and sometimes doctors have outlying offices that they visit once a week. This type of arrangement could provide better access to those who don't drive or get around well.  Sometimes the docs and staff come to the local senior citizen center and see patients for the day, or they set up shop in the local group home for seniors.

[ivanm]

Using an impromptu office in a senior center or a group home saves the doctors the cost of owning and using their own satellite offices.  Sometimes even local retired nurses or clerks help them see the patients.

My point is this.  There are innumerable ways we can help the indigent without breakng the bank. I also think that an improvement in our living and eating habits would be worthwhile, and the VA is big on this as they are usually short of funds and staff anyway.  It is better for the patient to not be plugged full of drugs that have side effects.

I have always been an easy person to treat in that I respond  well to the drugs, but for some reason my system won't tolerate them like I used to. Maybe it is a part of getting older.

Getting back to the thread topic, I hope for everyone's sake that Obama does well at his job as we do need leadership now more than in good times.  However, he runs the risk of failing at many tasks by attempting so much at the same time.  I prefer a more gradual approach with inititiatives that are well crafted and better received.  Shoving domestic programs thru the Congress just because his party has the majority to do it reminds me of gunboat diplomacy.  There are political consequences to either approach, and the last thing we need is more division.  We instead need a new sense of oneness and a renewed confidence and trust in our government to do the right thing.

[Michael]

The aging ailments generally come from the pipes getting too clogged.  The cracks and crevases in the intestinal walls get clusters which breed bad bacteria. 

I slowed down my aging process through, not only fasting, but a daily regimen of tomatoes which gave my system a continuous cleansing. 

That is why I am nearing 60, and still working physical jobs.  Why many younger than me are either retired, or at least at desk jobs...while I continue on.

It is through ignorance that people bring a lot of ailments upon themselves.   They eat whatever tastes good and turn their bodies into toxic waste.  Then, they see doctors who give them one chemical after another trying to balance things out.  It eventually leads to early death as well as personal mysery.  It also becomes too late/too risky to fast or do a cleansing.

Being a doctor is a rewarding profession...unless you know too much about what the actual causes and treatments of most ailments is.  Then what do you do?  Be honest and tell people there is no cure for rotting from the inside out?  Lose business by telling them what to do/not to do, to maintain excellent health?

[ivanm]

Good thinking and good practice Mike.  I was much healthier when I was more active.  Now my arthritis limits what I can tolerate in a day's work as I get tired very quickly.

I suppose the acid in the tomatoes does something beneficial for your system.  Our neighbor lady is past 99 and she took a little vinegar with water twice a week.  Says it kept her flushed out.  The acid in vinegar is probably beneficial to the pipes and helps to clean them out.

I will have to hand it to the young women in this town, moreso than the young men.  The gals run up and down the streets and walks daily as part of their exercise, and just this morning I had the pleasure of getting off the  walk to make way for a pretty blonde that was running right along.  We have a lot of blondes her, msut be some germanic or Nordic stock as those people tend to be fair skinned  with blone hair.

I don't often see young males running and I wonder how they keep fit. 

[SufferedMoreThanJesus]

Those who felt there would be real change in public policy may be feeling adrift now because there is very little positive change--only more money thrown into the ocean of debt, perhaps...Obama's military stance certainly is like the previous administration....that is one area that people wanted to see change happen for the sake of the economy. He continues taking more control and at the same time giving more control to the very financial institutions that helped cause the fiscal meltdown in the first place, imo.

Kinda fun to go back in time and watch how long (or little time) it takes for some people to "get it."

In Lucy's case, it apparently was less than five months.

[IM2]

Rassmussen polls are invalid indicators of public reaction. They are conservative biased polls. So then if you ask only conservatives about Obama you get what rassmussen produces.

63 percent of the peopel support the Obama jobs plan. Rassmussen will tell you something different.

Republicans have no plan that can undo the damage they did in the first place. You guys don't want to accept this because you believe that if we repeat the plan the republcians implemented, somehow we will get out debt.

Our health care system has problems for at least 100 years. Presidents from Teddy Roosevelt on have talked about doing something about it. The most popular and well run program this nation has is what some would call socialist, and the name is medicare.

Those who are on medicare don't want it taken away. Even Ivan who rants about socialists and socialism, even though he really doesn't know what it is, will not give up his medicare.

So then if health care costs create over 40 million uninsured ameircans, if health care costs create increased medical costs borne by the rest of us by those who enter emergency rooms with no way to pay, then something has to be done to reduce the costs so that more can afford it.

The Affordable Health Care act has done just that. But of course since most here only watch fox news, and since most here only think that Rush, Hannity and Oreilly are diviners of fact, then we get a bunch of misinformed people spewing forth  crap that has nothing to do with the reality of the health care problem this nation faces.

It's not about the indigent, its about the working poor. People who work the hard 40 each week and still cannot afford health care. These are the people Obama is talking about. But you conservative idiots can only focus on the small number because the small number is easier for you to understand.

Micheal has it right on relative to health.

The more vegetables we eat, the more fruits and juices we take in, the healthier we will be. Nature gave us medicines in the leaves, fruits and veggies. I played rugby at an all star level until damn near fifty and it was due to a workout regimen plus putting in as much natural stuff as I could into to my body. I still do that now with a few suplements such as fish oil, and cranberry pills and I do cleanse myself at least twice each year.

Prescription drugs basically create drug addicts, and ivan, you belong to statistically, the largest group of drug addicts in this country. Jack Lalane hit the nail oh the head with his jucing. You should study that if you want better health.

[Hollybaere]

Rassmussen polls are invalid indicators of public reaction. They are conservative biased polls. So then if you ask only conservatives about Obama you get what rassmussen produces.

Ok................

You like the Gallup Poll any better?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx