Rick "Don't Google My Name" Santorum on Prop 8

[johnhp]

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How much do republicans hate fiture nominee Mitt Romney?  So much so that they gave Rick "Man on Dog" Santorum three victories last night.  One website referred to it as a "Mittastrophy" (largely because Mr. Romney lost 2 states he had won in 2008).  Anticipating his victory, Mr. Santorum tweeted the following about the ruling on prop 8:

7M Californians had their rights stripped away today by activist 9th circuit judges.  As president I will work to protect marriage.

Proposition 8 denied marriage to homosexuals, how does overturning that strip away rights from anyone?

[Pepsi]

They have a right to prevent others from having a right?   

Anyway good for the bible thumper.   Naturally I'd love to see Santorum take it from Romney.

[johnhp]

Naturally I'd love to see Santorum take it from Romney.

You mean the nomination right?  Because otherwise...ewwww.

[johnhp]

They have a right to prevent others from having a right?   

From the ruling...

"The people may not employ the initiative power to single out a disfavored group for unequal treatment and strip them, without a legitimate justification, of a right as important as the right to marry."

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"Proposition 8 denied marriage to homosexuals, how does overturning that strip away rights from anyone?" -hp

it strips away their democratic process, their right to make  their own rules.  their right to not allow one certain group to change definitions

I forget, john, are you for or against gay marriage?

or is that too tough of a question for you to answer?

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Gay Marriage is a Constitutional right?

I'd like to read that one.

[johnhp]

"Proposition 8 denied marriage to homosexuals, how does overturning that strip away rights from anyone?" -hp

it strips away their democratic process, their right to make  their own rules.  their right to not allow one certain group to change definitions

I forget, john, are you for or against gay marriage?

or is that too tough of a question for you to answer?

It is an incredulous answer.  "The people" do not have the right to deny essential rights to others.  i agree with the court on this as far as it concerns civil institutions.


With regard to gay marriage, i affirm the teaching of the church.  However, in a nation that is established on the disestablishment of religion, i have to recognize that there are rights and institutions that will be extended to people whether or not i agree with them.  In addition, we are discussing marriage as an institution regulated by the state, not as a sacrament.  We have had this discussion before.  You suggested allowing homosexuals to have an institution that has the same rights but just not call it marriage.  And i suggested that if you took that approach you were guaranteeing gay marriage because what you were suggesting would be viewed as separate and unequal.

[johnhp]

Gay Marriage is a Constitutional right?

I'd like to read that one.

Not at all.  Singling out groups to limit their rights is not a constitutional right envisioned by the ballot initiative of the California constitution.  At least that is what the ruling stated.

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California has been here before almost two dozen times.  This is not news.  District 9 is notoriously liberal and they always get a liberal judge to overturn the votes.  And then we take it to Supreme Court, and District 9 is overturned...again and again and again.

Eventually, the Supreme Court is going to sanction these judges for wasting their time.

[johnhp]

California has been here before almost two dozen times.  This is not news.  District 9 is notoriously liberal and they always get a liberal judge to overturn the votes.  And then we take it to Supreme Court, and District 9 is overturned...again and again and again.

Eventually, the Supreme Court is going to sanction these judges for wasting their time.

Actually, i think the SC may not even hear the case.  This was, quite frankly, an extremely narrow ruling.

[nraforlife]

They have a right to prevent others from having a right?   

Anyway good for the bible thumper.   Naturally I'd love to see Santorum take it from Romney.

They the normal Americans have a right to NOT see Marriage our cornerstone social institution turned into a sick joke by perverts and their marxist enablers.

[johnhp]

They the normal Americans have a right to NOT see Marriage our cornerstone social institution turned into a sick joke by perverts and their marxist enablers.

Except, of course, that the state had previosuly extended the right and proposition 8 targeted a specific population to deny them rights won in the legislature.

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What "rights?"

[johnhp]

What "rights?"

You really do not know much about the state in which you live, do you?  Prior to prop 8, the legislature had granted same-sex couples all of the rights of married couples with the exception of calling it marriage.  That is what prop 8 took away, according to the ruling.

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What "rights" do married couples have in California?