Catholic priests defend Church against Obama from pulpit

[Mornac]

For that matter, so is asking someone how they feel about female circumcision.

--It is. And if someone was reluctant to expose their views on it, I would respect that. But then they wouldn't really have much of a case for objecting to being forced to pay for it.

[Mornac]

What's the point? I wouldn't believe your answer even if you gave one. You are untrustworthy.

--You're welcome to your viewpoint notoc.

[DougRich]

--People said the same thing about legalized abortion not too many years ago.

The inevitability of safe, legal abortions in this country was widely accepted nearly a hundred years ago, though the reality took somewhat longer. I suppose that "not too many years" is a relative term, but certainly it hasn't been within your or my lifetime.

--Why not? Male circumcision is. Are you accusing the populace of being sexist?

It's silly little throwaway questions like that last one that reveal how truly little you care for rational, grownup conversation.

Male circumcision got a foothold in American medical practice largely through some questionable statistics and research, and is practiced today as widely as it is not for any religious or even cultural reasons, but because it became a medical fad, long ago, and has been slow to die out.

--I didn’t suspect you would. You don’t come across as a religious type.

If someone like you thought that I did, I would probably worry about myself.

[notoc]

--You're welcome to your viewpoint notoc.

... and the sun will rise in the morning and you will be as untrustworthy as ever. Tell me something I don't already know.

[DougRich]

Did you have a point?

You asked:

Do business owners deserve to have theire arms twisted into spending their money to do what the government wants them to?

Now, you've answered your own question - yes, apparently they do.

[Undecided]

--Yep.
--None. Did you have a point?

The point is that business owners have their arms twisted by government all the time.  It goes with the territory.  It's a part of existing within a society.

[Mornac]

... and the sun will rise in the morning and you will be as untrustworthy as ever.

--I told you that you're welcome to your viewpoint notoc. A right to disturb the peace with your idle moaning might be a different story.

Tell me something I don't already know.

--I think johnhp has the hots for you.

[notoc]

--I told you that you're welcome to your viewpoint notoc. A right to disturb the peace with your idle moaning might be a different story.
--I think johnhp has the hots for you.

How old are you, Mornac?

[Mornac]

Now, you've answered your own question - yes, apparently they do.

--How could you have gotten that so wrong? My answer is no, they don't.  

[Mornac]

How old are you, Mornac?

--I just turned 54 three weeks ago.

[Mornac]

The point is that business owners have their arms twisted by government all the time.

--Does that make it right?

It goes with the territory.

--It goes with the territory of the state in which they do business. The only way the Federal government cab twist an arm is if it oversteps its bounds.

It's a part of existing within a society.

--Really? How much Federal arm-twisting did the businesses that existed in American society suffer from in 1780?

[notoc]

--I just turned 54 three weeks ago.

I had you down as Nine.

[Undecided]

--Does that make it right?

There's nothing wrong with it.

--It goes with the territory of the state in which they do business. The only way the Federal government cab twist an arm is if it oversteps its bounds.

That's simply incorrect.

--Really? How much Federal arm-twisting did the businesses that existed in American society suffer from in 1780?

Not much, but our society has grown progressively more complex over that time.

[Mornac]

There's nothing wrong with it.

--There’s nothing wrong business owners having their arms twisted by government all the time? You’re one of those passive submissive types ain’t  ya Undecided.

That's simply incorrect.

--You make a convincing argument. I’m sold.

Not much, but our society has grown progressively more complex over that time.

--Sounds like they got to ya Undecided.

[ivanm]

Hey Hey, the sucker caved.