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« on: January 18, 2012, 07:03:32 PM »

The economy? It’s still Bush’s fault

A majority of Americans believe that former President George W. Bush is more responsible than President Obama for the current economic problems in the country, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Fifty-four percent of respondents said that Bush was more to blame while 29 percent put the blame on Obama; 9 percent said both men deserved blame while 6 percent said neither did. Among registered voters, the numbers are almost identical; 54 percent blame Bush, while 30 percent blame Obama.

Independents, widely considered the most critical voting bloc this fall, continue to blame Bush far more than Obama for the economic troubles. Fifty-seven percent of unaffiliated voters put the blame on the former Republican president, while 25 percent believe the blame rests more with Obama.

Heck, even one in five Republicans say Bush is more responsible than Obama for the state of the economy!

The economic blame game numbers are somewhat remarkable given that Obama is in the third year of his presidency, a tenure defined by the continued economic distress in the country.

We’ve written for quite some time that the longer Obama is in office (and the longer Bush is out of it), the more likely it is that blame for the economy would shift toward him. But, these numbers suggest — gasp! — we were wrong.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-economy-its-still-bushs-fault/2012/01/17/gIQAE7Dy6P_blog.html?wprss=rss_politics

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 07:06:09 PM »

WaPo, eh?  o_O
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 07:12:38 PM »

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According to the Commerce Department numbers released Friday (August 12, 2011), the U.S. economy is growing at just 1.3 percent. Maybe. First quarter growth, initially reported as a disappointing 1.9 percent, was revised drastically down to just 0.4 percent. Those numbers are depressing enough. The downward revision of first quarter growth suggests that even the woeful second quarter number may be optimistic. And it comes after five consecutive quarters of a slowing economy—with growth of just 3.9 percent, 3.8 percent, 2.5 percent, and 2.3 percent before the economy stalled out at 0.4 percent in the first three months of this year.


That’s not all. Unemployment has risen for three consecutive months. It’s now 9.2 percent. Nearly half of the unemployed have been seeking work for longer than six months—the highest long-term unemployment rate since the Great Depression. And the GDP numbers out Friday suggest that many more American workers will be added to the unemployment rolls in the coming months.

By virtually every available metric, the U.S. economy is heading in the wrong direction.

Remember this over the next 15 months: The economy has been slowing for reasons that had nothing at all to do with the debate over the debt ceiling that preoccupied Washington for four weeks in July 2011. Nothing.

The White House and its most reliable allies will spend much of the time between now and November 2012 trying to convince you that the opposite is true. In some ways, the president’s reelection depends on it. They want you to think that the Obama Recovery was humming along until Republicans, answering to “special interests,” brought it grinding to a halt by manufacturing a crisis on the debt ceiling.



Bill Burton, former White House spokesman who is now running Obama’s SuperPac, has sent out a stream of tweets in recent weeks seeking to blame Republicans for the economy. One day he points to George W. Bush. The next it’s John Boehner, then generic Republicans. “Each day Republicans obstruct progress it seems more and more as if they believe they benefit politically if they hurt America economically.”

In explaining the poor June unemployment numbers, Obama himself suggested that the debt ceiling debate was partly to blame. “The sooner we get this done .  .  . the sooner we give our businesses the certainty that they need .  .  . to grow and hire.”

Time magazine columnist Joe Klein amplified the White House talking points in a column last week. “The uncertainty caused by the Republican anarchy has already damaged the economy, businesses are waiting to see what the interest rates will be and therefore delaying plans to expand,” he writes. “That uncertainty, added to the higher oil prices caused by the Arab Spring, the European debt crisis, and the Japanese earthquake, could well bring us a double-dip recession.” His conclusion, with characteristic reserve: “Osama bin Laden, if he were still alive, could not have come up with a more clever strategy for strangling our nation.”

Got that? The economic slowdown that started in January 2010 came as a result of a debate in Congress 19 months later.

These are the arguments you make when reality is unhelpful. Obama campaigned on a promise to fix the economy. He made his case at nearly every campaign stop. But he did so most emphatically during a high-profile speech in Ohio shortly before the election. In that speech, he declared that remaking the economy “is why I’m running for president.” Exit polls showed that a majority of Americans chose him for that reason, too.

He had two years to run the country with a Democratic Congress. Almost immediately, he signed an $800 billion stimulus package to jump-start growth and lower unemployment. His economic team famously predicted that if it passed, unemployment would remain under 8 percent. They were wrong. 

The same crowd now claiming to be so concerned about the effects of “uncertainty” on businesses spent much of the first two years of the Obama administration concocting a new entitlement that is generating literally tens of thousands of new health care regulations. And rather than boosting the economy by “bending the cost curve down” on health care spending, as the White House promised, a report last week from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services projects U.S. health care spending will rise significantly—by 8.3 percent in 2014, the first year under a fully implemented Obamacare. By 2020 it will have doubled.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/it-s-obama-s-economy_577792.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 07:24:58 PM »

OBAMA'S ECONOMIC WOES, IT'S STILL BUSH'S FAULT AND NOW EVERYONE ELSE TOO

The old blame game with Barack Obama took a new turn this week as bad economic news piled on to the Community Organizer in the form of a much weaker than anticipated jobs growth, (if you call 54,000 growth), more than half of which came from one company, McDonalds, unemployment jumping back above 9% and more jobless claims that expected.

Obama followed his usual blame Bush rhetoric by regressing back two and a half years to claiming that this whole economic mess is because of fiscal policies over the decade before he took office. Not mentioning Bush by name by quickly calling the problem being the Bush years. But this blame game go around Obama added that scared investors and consumers are also at fault for the stalled economy because of holding back on investing and spending.

What an absolute idiot. Investors aren't investing because Obama's current economic policy does not give investors any incentive to invest since the false bubble created by Obama's bailout plan for Wall Street has made a precarious growth in the stock market that can collapse at any time. So understandably investors are weary of losing their shirt when the Obama created bubble bursts.

Consumers aren't spending money because simply put, they don't have it. Obama's economic policy has caused prices to skyrocket because of massive increases in energy costs caused by the enviro king in The White House who has stopped almost all domestic oil production and by Executive Order forced a form of taxation by regulation on many energy industries like coal etc. in order to push his green agenda.

Add to that a general bad feeling about the Obama made economy and consumers are holding every dollar available because frankly they need it to survive in the mess Obama has created. Obama NOT Bush exploded deficits from $464 billion when Bush left office to $1.5 trillion with trillion dollar deficits in the Obama mix for the next decade.

Obama NOT Bush flushed $1.7 trillion dollars down the toilet in a stimulus program that has ONLY stimulated Obama's Union buddies and destroyed millions of jobs while creating only a few thousand new Union based jobs. In fact since taking office Obama has averaged a 4.2 million job loss per year making him the greatest job killing President in our history.

Yet according to this delusional President the problem is still that of his predecessor and we the people who have failed to appreciate all he has done to save us from the big bad Bush and all of his destructive policy that caused all of Obama's economic woes. Get a back bone Obama and step down from your arrogant perch on your liberal Mount Olympus.

This economy is NOT Bush's fault nor is it a result of investors and consumers not appreciating all you haven't done to get the economy going. We are stagnant because YOU have made it so. Your big spending plans, back door taxation through regulation causing business to spend growth capital to pay for your leftist agenda, unsustainable deficits and increase of the debt more than all of your predecessors combined is the cause of our country's economic woes.

But the arrogant one will not admit to his failure and as such it is every ones fault but his. Well Mr. Organizer, we the people aren't buying your flim flam blame game. We know where the problem is and if we can survive until November 2012 we will eliminate that problem by booting you out of office. 2012 please come quickly!
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 07:27:04 PM »



.....was that poll done before the truth was known about Obama and Bush being from the same bloodline Huh? ..........Obama is good at continuing Bush's policies and not being blamed for it......sense it was Bush's policies..... Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 07:29:13 PM »

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laming Bush For The Economy Still Appears To Be An Effective Tactic For Obama
Rob Port  •  August 25, 2011


In 2009, President Obama said “give it to me” in response to a question about whether or not he was responsible for the economy. But despite assigning himself responsibility, he’s still spent a considerable amount of his time in office blaming his predecessor George Bush for the nation’s problems.
And, while to reasonable people that may seem like an absurd tactic almost three years in to his term in office, it appears to be working with the public at large:
WASHINGTON – Americans’ views on the economy have dimmed this summer. But so far, the growing pessimism doesn’t seem to be taking a toll on President Barack Obama’s re-election prospects. …
The survey found that 86 percent of adults see the economy as “poor,” up from 80 percent in June. About half – 49 percent – said it worsened just in the past month. Only 27 percent responded that way in the June survey.
That can’t be good news for a president revving up his re-election campaign. Yet there are several hopeful signs for Obama.
Despite the perception of a weakening recovery, there has been no significant change in the number of people who say he deserves re-election: 47 percent as opposed to 48 percent two months ago. That’s a statistical dead heat with those who favor a change in the White House.
And more Americans still blame former President George W. Bush rather than Obama for the economic distress. Some 31 percent put the bulk of the blame on Obama, while 51 percent point to his Republican predecessor.
“Whenever the people are well informed,” wrote Thomas Jefferson in a 1789 letter to Richard Price, “they can be trusted with their own government.”
If Americans still blame a President who has been out of office for years, and not the current President who has enacted some of the most radical economic policies since the Franklin Roosevelt administration, how can we say they’re well informed?

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/blaming-bush-for-the-economy-still-appears-to-be-an-effective-tactic-for-obama/
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 09:04:39 PM »

The top ten secret White House excuses for the poorly performing economy:

1. Loch Ness Monster threatening to make an appearance in Lake Superior.

2. Economy still reeling from failed 1980s introduction of New Coke.

3. Bo ate my economic plan.

4. Bernanke hooked again on Afghani hashish.

5. Economic time bomb planted by Richard Nixon finally going off.

6. Thousands unable to work after being injured trying to learn the Macarena.

7. Evil spell cast on the country by Dick Cheney has yet to wear off.

8. Obama never should have listened when Bush said, “Obama, wreck the economy.”

9. Lady Gaga accidentally allowed to provide economic advice during first year of Obama’s presidency.

10. Obama not getting in enough golf.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 09:11:42 PM »

In summary: Bush is responsible for the shitty economy he left for Obama; the GOP in congress are responsible for disallowing Obama to fix it.

G.O.P. in Congress Gets Blame for Gridlock

The public is not assigning blame equally between President Obama and Republicans in Congress for the partisan gridlock over key legislation.

In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, 60 percent say Mr. Obama is attempting to work with Congressional Republicans to try to accomplish something; 27 percent say Republicans in Congress are making the same effort to work things out with the president.

There is strong public support for politicians to start cooperating. At least 80 percent – regardless of party identification – say Republicans and Democrats should compromise some of their positions in order to get things done.

Majorities of Democrats and independents say Mr. Obama is trying to work with the Republicans and only a third of Republicans agree. But nearly half of the Republicans surveyed do agree with Democrats and independents on one thing: Congressional Republicans are not working with the president to make progress on the legislative agenda.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/g-o-p-in-congress-get-blame-for-gridlock/

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 09:15:19 PM »

So, you agree with me.  Obama is not competent enough to fix the economy.

I told you that three years ago.  That's why he has to be replaced by a competent President.

Glad to hear you finally get it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 09:18:31 PM »

In summary: Bush is responsible for the shitty economy he left for Obama; the GOP in congress are responsible for disallowing Obama to fix it.

G.O.P. in Congress Gets Blame for Gridlock

The public is not assigning blame equally between President Obama and Republicans in Congress for the partisan gridlock over key legislation.

In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, 60 percent say Mr. Obama is attempting to work with Congressional Republicans to try to accomplish something; 27 percent say Republicans in Congress are making the same effort to work things out with the president.

There is strong public support for politicians to start cooperating. At least 80 percent – regardless of party identification – say Republicans and Democrats should compromise some of their positions in order to get things done.

Majorities of Democrats and independents say Mr. Obama is trying to work with the Republicans and only a third of Republicans agree. But nearly half of the Republicans surveyed do agree with Democrats and independents on one thing: Congressional Republicans are not working with the president to make progress on the legislative agenda.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/g-o-p-in-congress-get-blame-for-gridlock/


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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 12:16:33 AM »

In summary: Bush is responsible for the shitty economy he left for Obama; the GOP in congress are responsible for disallowing Obama to fix it.

G.O.P. in Congress Gets Blame for Gridlock

The public is not assigning blame equally between President Obama and Republicans in Congress for the partisan gridlock over key legislation.

In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, 60 percent say Mr. Obama is attempting to work with Congressional Republicans to try to accomplish something; 27 percent say Republicans in Congress are making the same effort to work things out with the president.

There is strong public support for politicians to start cooperating. At least 80 percent – regardless of party identification – say Republicans and Democrats should compromise some of their positions in order to get things done.

Majorities of Democrats and independents say Mr. Obama is trying to work with the Republicans and only a third of Republicans agree. But nearly half of the Republicans surveyed do agree with Democrats and independents on one thing: Congressional Republicans are not working with the president to make progress on the legislative agenda.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/g-o-p-in-congress-get-blame-for-gridlock/




....verses objections to Obama's liberal policies........the grid lock is on both sides......bad legislation and refusal to compromise.........
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 10:53:35 AM »

....verses objections to Obama's liberal policies........the grid lock is on both sides......bad legislation and refusal to compromise.........
To a liberal's way of thinking, opposition to bad legislation is gridlock.  At the rate Obama and his wrecking ball is going we will make Haiti look good in four more years.

He keeps championing the cause of the losers, and that is admirable, to a point. Where is the incentive for the winners to finance his bullshit promises, and what is in it for them?  I have lived around losers long enough to know that whatever you give them they will piss away and then whine for more. And if you don't give again then you are an uncaring person.

You can't win with the fucking parasites.  It would be like sending a third rate team to the Super Bowl and expecting a win.  Obama's motives are purely political, and he has been trying to buy votes ever since he took office. That should tell us something about his ability to lead.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 11:20:23 AM »

If the economy is getting better, end the unemployment extensions.

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 12:09:04 PM »

To a liberal's way of thinking, opposition to bad legislation is gridlock.  At the rate Obama and his wrecking ball is going we will make Haitia look good in four more years.

He keeps championing the cause of the losers, and that is admirable, to a point. Where is the incentive for the winners to finance his bullshit promises, and what is in it for them?  I have lived around losers long enough to know that whatever you give them they will piss away and then whine for more. And if you don't give again then you are an uncaring person.

You can't win with the fucking parasites.  It would be like sending a third rate team to the Super Bowl and expecting a win.  Obama's motives are purely political, and he has been trying to buy votes ever since he took office. That should tell us something about his ability to lead.


You live in one of those parasitic states, Ivanna.  What are you doing to get the money back to those of us who carry your teat sucking asses?
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You live in one of those parasitic states, Ivanna.  What are you doing to get the money back to those of us who carry your teat sucking asses?

What do you suggest he do?  Write a harshly-worded letter to his representatives?  Do you think that would help?
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