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« Reply #165 on: January 17, 2012, 10:08:32 AM »


Actually, JohnHP, I am disappoint that since you have an advanced degree "In Thinking" (LOL) that you haven't jumped into the thought process of explaining to notoc the differentiation of personal opinion, perception, truth, fact, and lies.


i actually have already commented on the statement and have noted exactly why i think Mornac's answer is dishonest on his part.
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« Reply #166 on: January 17, 2012, 10:11:41 AM »

i actually have already commented on the statement and have noted exactly why i think Mornac's answer is dishonest on his part.

Dishonest because it doesn't fall within your parameters of understand, observation, perception?  I mean, have you considered all aspects of The Mornac Mind, all of his Life Experiences, his Life Observations, his Early Harsh Potty Training?  What?

How can you make a determination as to the truth and veracity without intimately knowing any, or all, of those?

You really can't, can you?  Seriously?
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« Reply #167 on: January 17, 2012, 10:18:18 AM »

Dishonest because it doesn't fall within your parameters of understand, observation, perception?  I mean, have you considered all aspects of The Mornac Mind, all of his Life Experiences, his Life Observations, his Early Harsh Potty Training?  What?

How can you make a determination as to the truth and veracity without intimately knowing any, or all, of those?

You really can't, can you?  Seriously?

Dishonest because Mornac has previously used arguments that condemned Thomism.  Dishonest because he has also rejected Thomas's natural theology on which the demonstratio of Thomas' proofs are based (the proofs cannot be demonstrated to those without faith if there is no Thomist natural theology).
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« Reply #168 on: January 17, 2012, 10:21:04 AM »

Dishonest because Mornac has previously used arguments that condemned Thomism.  Dishonest because he has also rejected Thomas's natural theology on which the demonstratio of Thomas' proofs are based (the proofs cannot be demonstrated to those without faith if there is no Thomist natural theology).

And why must they be "demonstrated to those without faith?"

What is the point?
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« Reply #169 on: January 17, 2012, 10:24:48 AM »

And why must they be "demonstrated to those without faith?"

What is the point?

That is what the proofs were for; they were apologetics.  You really did not know that?
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« Reply #170 on: January 17, 2012, 10:28:44 AM »

That is what the proofs were for; they were apologetics.  You really did not know that?


Well, I will admit that I did not know that.  But I shall go further, sir.  I have NEVER, no, not once in my entire life, felt that I have the burden to convince anyone of anything at anytime.

You see, I embrace differences of opinion because from that, we/I can learn things from others.  Yes, we/I may not agree with those opinions, but that doesn't mean I have to be an obnoxious cockneck about it...like you enjoy being.

That having been said, is this you?

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« Reply #171 on: January 17, 2012, 10:34:55 AM »


Well, I will admit that I did not know that.  But I shall go further, sir.  I have NEVER, no, not once in my entire life, felt that I have the burden to convince anyone of anything at anytime.


This is not the issue.  You asked a question about Mornac.  It was answered.




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« Reply #172 on: January 17, 2012, 10:39:53 AM »

You asked a question about Mornac.  It was answered.


You are doing it again.

At no time have I "asked a question about Mornac."

I have "no questions about Mornac."  I accept Mornac for who and what he is.  If I was to ask a question about Mornac, I would direct the question to Mornac...and not you.

Why would I presume you would know jack shit about Mornac?

I don't believe you have a PhD in Philosophy, JohnHP.
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« Reply #173 on: January 17, 2012, 11:04:12 AM »

You are doing it again.

At no time have I "asked a question about Mornac."

I have "no questions about Mornac."  I accept Mornac for who and what he is.  If I was to ask a question about Mornac, I would direct the question to Mornac...and not you.

Why would I presume you would know jack shit about Mornac?

I don't believe you have a PhD in Philosophy, JohnHP.

Actually you have.  Reply 166.


i do not have a phd in philosophy.  i have a phd in another discipline; i teach philosophy.

However, in my post i should have written that you asked a question about the proofs.
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