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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 11:24:56 AM »

Every time he opens his mouth it is about more taxes, more borrowing, more spending. The dumb ass has no concept of what a dollar is worth or where it comes from.

It has been pointed out that annual tax revenues are over 2.3 trillion dollars, so if that is not enough then we need a person in the WH that knows how to count.

I take it you have no problem with his incessant borrowing.  Well you should because it is your retirement years that he is fucking over.  And what about your kids? What is in it for them?

ivan,  he just proposed CUTTING the government (ending the commerce dept);  yet again.  you don't know what you're talking about.

how about bringing 2 brigades home from eu?  that's something that bush never did and mccaine would not have done?  you have no idea what you're talking about.

how about giving tax breaks to the middle-class and tax breaks and incentives to small businesses?  you have no idea what you're talking about.

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 11:28:11 AM »

Why bother?  I'm really wondering if any conservative type can actually point to specific reasons why they feel the way they do.    You think he's incompetent?  Why?    

I think several "things" have been addressed.

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Was it bailing out GM and Chrysler?   
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The stimulus? 
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The health care bill?   
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His foreign policy; Libya, Osama, etc? 
Yes.

In addition, his "czars," his bungling of the oil spill, his lavish and opulent parties in the middle of a recession, his calling for civility, when he gives none, his policy on illegals, his policy on doing nothing about the New Black Panther Party intimidation, his concept that we should "spread the wealth around," his policy on class warfare, his new being able to detain anyone for no reason policy, the people he surrounds himself with, Ayres, etc...his unilateral decision to appoint without the approval of Congress, his apparent misunderstanding of "who" Americans are...he's out of touch...with the exception of his constituents, his spending habits, his condescending attitude towards anyone who disgrees with him, his relationship with Israel...

I mean there is a whole VERY LONG list of shit that I do not like.  I could sit here all day and itemize them for you.  Why do I not like it?  I oppose those policies because that is not how I was raised to believe America functions.
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 11:31:28 AM »

you'll come off a lot less stupid and your white supremacism would have more heft;  you can't be a good white supremacist if everyone thinks your ideas have no merit because you cite knee-jerk bullshit rather than scholarship.



Oh, yeah.  His eternal use of the Race Card through his Disciples.  Almost forgot that one.

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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2012, 11:37:41 AM »

His unwillingness to address the energy problem, with the exception of through green energy, his unwillingness to drill for oil, his unwillingness to address the pipeline, his blatant announcement that once he became president, he would make it virtually impossible for the coal industry to expand, and if they tried, he would "bankrupt" them.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 11:40:36 AM »

His belief that if you "tax ONLY the rich" that that will solve America's problems...not even taking into consideration that the government spending is out of fucking control.  His policies on more and more regulation (4,000 new regulations as of January 1, 2012) which directly negatively impact the expansion of growth of businesses and corporations.  His inability to get anything done, really.

Personally, I think he has lost interest in being President and have no idea why he would want to run for a second term.
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 11:50:41 AM »

Many self-styled "Conservatives" like to talk about how "dumb and inarticulate" President Obama is...about how he supposedly can't speak in public without a teleprompter, etc. I honestly don't know whether they simply haven't seen Obama's many appearances over the years at debates, press conferences, and other venues, where there was no teleprompter, and his responses were, of necessity, impromptu...or if they watched at least some of them and simply haven't been able to process the information. George W. Bush was one of the worst public speakers, impromptu or otherwise, to hold the office of President in modern times, and many of those same people loved him.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2012, 11:52:27 AM »

Every time he opens his mouth it is about more taxes, more borrowing, more spending. The dumb ass has no concept of what a dollar is worth or where it comes from.

It has been pointed out that annual tax revenues are over 2.3 trillion dollars, so if that is not enough then we need a person in the WH that knows how to count.

I take it you have no problem with his incessant borrowing.  Well you should because it is your retirement years that he is fucking over.  And what about your kids? What is in it for them?


I firmly believe that in the midst of an economic collapse like we have experienced starting in 2008 that the government had to increase spending (aka stimulus, to stimulate demand/ demand of last resort).     That said, Obama is responsible for much less of the deficit than Bush, whose policies resulted not only in huge deficits but economic collapse.



However I do appreciate hearing your viewpoint, which validates mine: that there really is little validity in Obama's opposition.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »

Many self-styled "Conservatives" like to talk about how "dumb and inarticulate" President Obama is...about how he supposedly can't speak in public without a teleprompter, etc. I honestly don't know whether they simply haven't seen Obama's many appearances over the years at debates, press conferences, and other venues, where there was no teleprompter, and his responses were, of necessity, impromptu...or if they watched at least some of them and simply haven't been able to process the information. George W. Bush was one of the worst public speakers, impromptu or otherwise, to hold the office of President in modern times, and many of those same people loved him.


Here is a montage of a 41 minute speech he gave with "the words" taken out and the stutters left in.

Articulate, eh?

Barack Obama Stuttering Uh Montage Small | Large
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 12:04:04 PM »

I firmly believe that in the midst of an economic collapse like we have experienced starting in 2008 that the government had to increase spending (aka stimulus, to stimulate demand/ demand of last resort).     That said, Obama is responsible for much less of the deficit than Bush, whose policies resulted not only in huge deficits but economic collapse.



There you go again, Pepsi.  The Bush vs. Obama argument.

Hello Today.

Goodbye Yesterday.

The American public is ABSOLUTELY sick of this "argument."  You, apparently, are not.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 12:13:22 PM »

There you go again, Pepsi.  The Bush vs. Obama argument.

Hello Today.

Goodbye Yesterday.

The American public is ABSOLUTELY sick of this "argument."  You, apparently, are not.

Not just Bush, the GOP congress 2000-2006 and goes all the way back to Reagan, the original king of deficit spending and borrowing and what all these modern republicans aspire to.  If you are voting against Obama because of opposition to his policies then it does matter if the opposition has a much worse track record at same policies.     Not doing so is illogical.
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 12:20:24 PM »

Not just Bush, the GOP congress 2000-2006 and goes all the way back to Reagan, the original king of deficit spending and borrowing and what all these modern republicans aspire to.  If you are voting against Obama because of opposition to his policies then it does matter if the opposition has a much worse track record at same policies.     Not doing so is illogical.

Well, except that Obama was elected on the campaign promise that he would and could fix it.

Oh, yeah.  We've heard it all before.  "You can't expect him to fix 8 years of failed policy in six months nine months one year two years three years."

When, exactly, can we expect this "fix," sir?  He himself said if he couldn't "turn it around in three years, it would be a one-term Presidency."

Guess what?  We're more in debt.  Our debt to gross revenues have been exceeded by debt for the first time in our history.  Our credit rating has been downgraded for the first time in history.  We have more people unemployed.  We have businesses going out of business in droves.  We have more people on Welfare than at any time in our history.  We have more people using Food Stamps than at any time in history.  You fling these "improving economic indicators" out like they were factual, when you know they are not.  You know they aren't counting the people who have been unemployed for so long, they are off the rolls.  You know they aren't counting the unemployed who aren't even looking for employment.  You know your "facts" are lies.  And yet you keep repeating them.  Why?
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 01:02:16 PM »

Here is a montage of a 41 minute speech he gave with "the words" taken out and the stutters left in.

Articulate, eh?

Oh, with all "the words taken out", is it? Yeah, well, of course that proves your point.  Roll Eyes

Everyone who speaks in public on a regular basis, even with prepared remarks, has bad days. There are days when I can simply open my mouth and the words flow perfectly and I say exactly what I want to say, and there are days when, for whatever reason, I can't seem to string together two words the way I want to.

The plain fact of the matter is that Barack Obama is a highly intelligent individual, whether one always agrees with his views and policies (which I, for one, certainly don't), and that just kills some people. It isn't enough for some folks that their ideological opponents are wrong - they must be evil-intentioned, immoral, and stupid into the bargain.
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2012, 01:10:03 PM »


The plain fact of the matter is that Barack Obama is a highly intelligent individual

He's a D Student from Harvard.

Prove me wrong.
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2012, 01:19:14 PM »

He's a D Student from Harvard.

Prove me wrong.

you're wrong.  there are NO "D" students in Harvard law!  if you knew anything about grad school (not to mention law school) you would know that in order to remain in the program you must meet a certain level of performance.  even a "C" average wouldn't cut it in Harvard Law.  but of course you wouldn't know that.

don't you love it when i take you seriously?
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2012, 01:22:51 PM »

you're wrong.  there are NO "D" students in Harvard law!  if you knew anything about grad school (not to mention law school) you would know that in order to remain in the program you must meet a certain level of performance.  even a "C" average wouldn't cut it in Harvard Law.  but of course you wouldn't know that.

don't you love it when i take you seriously?

Obviously that doesn't apply to Affirmative Action students.
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