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« on: January 14, 2012, 03:41:28 PM »

Iran ‘has evidence’ CIA masterminded nuke scientist murder


Iranians hold a portrait of assassinated nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan
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Iran has sent two “letters of condemnation” in the wake of Wednesday’s killing of yet another Iranian nuclear scientist. Tehran is demanding a response from Washington and London for the attack, which was “guided” by the CIA and “assisted” by MI6.

­"We have reliable documents and evidence that this terrorist act was planned, guided and supported by the CIA," the Iranian foreign ministry said in a rare letter handed to the Swiss ambassador in Tehran, according to state television.

The Swiss Embassy has represented the USA in Iran since ties between the two countries were severed shortly after the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Another letter was sent to the British Embassy, claiming the British Foreign Intelligence Service, MI6, aided the CIA-led operation. The letter notes that the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists "started exactly after the British official John Sawers declared the beginning of intelligence operations against Iran," as quoted by the official Iranian Republic News Agency.

In 2010 John Sawers, the head of MI6, declared diplomacy was not enough to curb Iran’s nuclear ambitions. “We need intelligence-led operations to make it more difficult for countries like Iran to develop nuclear weapons," he said.

Earlier this week, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, also blamed Israel’s Mossad for the death of Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, 32, who died on January 11 in Tehran after a magnetic bomb was attached to his car.

Tehran has urged the UN Security Council and Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to condemn this latest killing. US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton summarily dismissed the charges, while Israeli President Shimon Peres said that Israel had no role in the attack.

Roshan is the fourth Iranian scientist to be killed since 2007. Iran insists this is an international conspiracy, led by the US and Israel who want to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program.

Tensions over Tehran’s nuclear plans surged in November, when the International Atomic Energy Agency said it had gathered intelligence showing Tehran had tried to develop miniaturized nuclear warheads for ballistic missiles as well as the detonators necessary to trigger a fissile reaction. The US, UK, Israel are among the countries concerned that Iran would use this potential to build nuclear weapons. Tehran has rejected the charges and denies their nuclear program has any military goals.

http://rt.com/news/iran-scientist-letter-usa-799/

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 05:01:58 PM »

CIA = Mossad
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 07:45:36 AM »

It seems to be typical of what a group of snoops would do.  In this case CIA, Mossad, and MI6 are implicated.  In a way it beats going to war over the issue if the cause is just and necessary.

To me that is the question, is the western reaction to Iran on this issue just and necessary?  I don't remember anything like this happening to Israeli nuclear scientists when they were building their arsenal. 

IMO there are two key underlying issues that need to be resolved. One is the need for ME oil flowing thru the straits of Hormuz, and the other is Isreal's hard on for the Muslims.  We can get off the need for Gulf oil if we try, and I think that Isreal needs to take care of its own paranoia on the matter. 

Granted, Hezbollah operations are a genuine threat to the well being of Israel, but has anyone ever stopped to wonder why?  Maybe Israel's behavior since the modern state was created back in the forties has something to do with it?

I don't think that an attack on Iran will resolve either issue because in times of stress the Muslim neighbors of Iran will band together to further the struggle.  As an example, Al Qaeda is global in scope, so making war in Iran will not stop it, no, it will simply aggravate the situation.  Islam is like a giant global brotherhood and when under stress it will pull together.  They're not like the limp wristed people of the west.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 10:23:15 AM »

Is the Mossad behind the death of Mustafa Roshan?

By Catholic Online
1/16/2012

Iran's nuclear scientists must not look forward to their commutes. Over the past two years, five scientists working on Iran's nuclear program have been attacked and four killed. Last Wednesday, nuclear scientist Mustafa Ahmadi Roshan, 32, became the latest victim.

LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - There's little question as to why Roshan was assassinated. As a researcher working on Israel's nuclear program, a program widely believed to be aimed at the development of nuclear weapons, he was an important figure. His death will serve to dissuade others from working as well as dissuade the Iranian government from pursuing clandestine nuclear research.

It may also be a means of preventing a much larger conflict.

The great remaining mystery isn't the why, but the who. Who was responsible for the killing of Roshan? And who was been behind the killings of three other Iranian scientists? The most likely answer is Israel.

The Israeli government has practiced assassination of high-profile targets since 1948. Israel is a small country, but it has a formidable military. Still, it's military force is largely defensive in nature. Because Israel is surrounded by potential enemies, overt military action carries substantial political risk. However, the Israelis have long balanced the odds with the effective use of their intelligence services.

Israel's spy agency, the Mossad, is widely regarded to be the best in the world. And they are very good at assassinations.

There is little question that Roshan's assassination was a complex undertaking that was carefully and skillfully planned. The assassination itself took mere seconds. As Roshan waited for his chauffeur (and bodyguard) to drive him to work, a masked man on a motorcycle sped between the lanes of traffic to his car. Witnesses report that the assassin looked into the window to verify that Roshan was the passenger. He then attached an explosive device to the vehicle and sped away.

Just nine seconds later, the bomb detonated killing Roshan instantly. His bodyguard died shortly thereafter in a hospital. The assassin was never apprehended.

Iran was quick to blame Israel and the United States for the attack, but the US swiftly disavowed any involvement. While the US is firmly set against Iran's nuclear ambitions, the government has preferred to use strong sanctions and clandestine observation to stop Iran from developing its nuclear technology.

However, Israel has a history of performing assassinations and the very strong motive to stay the course. The Israelis believe that if Iran should develop a nuclear weapon, they will be the primary target of that country's anger.

While Iran claims its nuclear ambitions are peaceful, and has enjoyed support from both Russia and China, the Western powers have stated publicly that they will not permit Iran to have a nuclear weapon. It is widely believed that their nuclear research facilities, many of which are built in secret underground locations to withstand attack, are not peaceful at all.

The United Nations has attempted to intervene and continues to monitor Iran's progress, but inspectors have repeatedly complained that the Iranians have been uncooperative, and that they have not been truthful and forthright in answering the inspectors questions. This leads many to believe that Iran is guilty as charged by the West.

So now the question remains, how long before Iran develops a nuclear weapon, and can the Western powers slow or at least prevent its development?

Sanctions are certainly having an effect on the Iranian economy, but it is unclear whether they are significantly slowing down Iran's nuclear research program. If evidence should surface that Iran is close to completing a nuclear weapon, Israel, and possibly the United States, will almost certainly conduct a military strike against Iran. Such a strike will lead to war.

So the alternative appears to be a program of assassination. Perhaps, it is hoped, that if Mossad targets enough of the nuclear scientists, they can slow and possibly even stop all meaningful progress towards a nuclear weapon. However, given the patriotic and fundamentalist fervor that still resides at the highest levels of that country's government, abandonment of the program remains highly unlikely -- no matter how many scientists die.

http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=44417
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 10:25:50 AM »

Personally?

I believe it was a Persian (Irabian) who loves his country and doesn't want his fellow Persians to disappear in a mushroom-shaped cloud, and since his government won't do anything about stopping their chase for nuclear weaponry, he (and his colleagues) has decided to do something about it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 11:10:07 AM »

Something about this situation doesn't add up.  If the Iranians wanted a nuclear bomb then why couldn't they get one from an ally, or at least get the info. on how to build one?

The lack of  sufficient nuclear material to make a bomb might be the major holdup for them at the present. Are they so
egotistic that they have to reinvent the wheel?
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 01:58:54 PM »

Something about this situation doesn't add up.  If the Iranians wanted a nuclear bomb then why couldn't they get one from an ally, or at least get the info. on how to build one?

The lack of  sufficient nuclear material to make a bomb might be the major holdup for them at the present. Are they so
egotistic that they have to reinvent the wheel?



....right!....after all they are in bed with China and Russia and have purchased Jet fighters from both.......they could have included "The Bomb" in the transaction............... Roll Eyes .....The War suppliers just want another war to further build its hoarded wealth.........
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 02:11:59 PM »

Something about this situation doesn't add up.  If the Iranians wanted a nuclear bomb then why couldn't they get one from an ally, or at least get the info. on how to build one?

The lack of  sufficient nuclear material to make a bomb might be the major holdup for them at the present. Are they so
egotistic that they have to reinvent the wheel?


So far there is NO PROOF of Iran working on a nuclear bomb.

There are certainly enough people LYING about it however:

NYT Caught Lying about Iran & IAEA Report on Civilian Nuclear Program
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