The Church's treatment of Galileo

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I'm interested in what Catholics think about the treatment of Galileo by the Catholic Church.

[Mornac]

I think he was treated fairly well.

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I think he was treated fairly well.

Really?  How so?

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I think he was treated fairly well.

This opinion would seem to go against most peoples' opinion.

[Mornac]

Really?  How so?

--Your question is rather vague but lets see…the Church provided him with the Sacraments of Baptism, Penance, Holy Communion, Confirmation, Matrimony, and Extreme Unction… everything necessary to attain salvation and a joyous eternity.

Seems like pretty fair treatment to me.

[Mornac]

This opinion would seem to go against most peoples' opinion.

--Maybe. I can’t say I’ve polled “most people” on the matter. Nor do I care. Why do you make note of it?

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--Your question is rather vague but lets see…the Church provided him with the Sacraments of Baptism, Penance, Holy Communion, Confirmation, Matrimony, and Extreme Unction… everything necessary to attain salvation and a joyous eternity.

Seems like pretty fair treatment to me.

The Church tried and convicted him for heresy, because of scientific truths he discovered that they did not like, and kept him under house arrest for the remainder of his life.  That was more charitable than executing him, I guess.  The Church also censored the publication of his findings during the entire time period.

At least the Church eventually became so ashamed of this behavior that they apologized, in 1982 was it?

It is rather infuriating that the Church even bothered to apologize at that late date, as if it should have anything at all to say about scientific matters, as if they have any grip at all on matters of reality or the "truth".

In short, all the Church did was to do severe damage to an individual who was engaged in the simple act of natural inquiry, and suppressed the whole area of human nature that yearns to find out more about the world we live in.  What you assert that they "gave" him is not worth a bucket of spit, and is not even theirs to bestow.

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And why is your head so big?

[Mornac]

The Church tried and convicted him for heresy,

--Well since you submit a false premise only eight words into your rant there really isn’t any reason to address the rest of your ignorant tirade. Your libel remains laid bare for all to see. It’s also now clear (as I suspected) that you were not in the least bit  “interested in what Catholics think about the treatment of Galileo by the Catholic Church.” What you were really interested in was spewing a load of venom and ensuring that there was at least one Catholic present to make a tidy target.
 
Fail.

[Mornac]

And why is your head so big?

--That’s a question for Pepsi. I have no idea. I didn’t touch anything.

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--Well since you submit a false premise only eight words into your rant there really isn’t any reason to address the rest of your ignorant tirade. Your libel remains laid bare for all to see. It’s also now clear (as I suspected) that you were not in the least bit  “interested in what Catholics think about the treatment of Galileo by the Catholic Church.” What you were really interested in was spewing a load of venom and ensuring that there was at least one Catholic present to make a tidy target.
 
Fail.

No, I am actually interested in knowing how Catholics reconcile themselves with how their Church treated this particular person in this particular episode.  I won't even get into all of the other nefarious things that religion has done throughout history.  You just refuse to be forthcoming and candid about it, probably because it would be uncomfortable to do so.

Perhaps you realize it was a terrible mistake, as does the Church, and you go right along with their official apology.  If that's the case, especially since you weren't personally around at the time and in charge, that's good enough for me.

[Mornac]

No, I am actually interested in knowing how Catholics reconcile themselves with how their Church treated this particular person in this particular episode.

--This “particular episode”? The only “particular episode” you’ve spoken about here is one where “(t)he Church tried and convicted (Galileo) for heresy”.  Nothing like that ever happened in reality so neither I, nor any other Catholic has any business “reconcile(ing) themselves” with it. Any attempt by us to do so would make us participants in calumny which is a serious sin. You’d do better to investigate the bigoted propaganda you’re being fed before you accept it as fact. And in the future try to avoid getting your information from guys who look like this:

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--This “particular episode”? The only “particular episode” you’ve spoken about here is one where “(t)he Church tried and convicted (Galileo) for heresy”.  Nothing like that ever happened in reality so neither I, nor any other Catholic has any business “reconcile(ing) themselves” with it. Any attempt by us to do so would make us participants in calumny which is a serious sin. You’d do better to investigate the bigoted propaganda you’re being fed before you accept it as fact. And in the future try to avoid getting your information from guys who look like this:

Ok, you've convinced me.  You're insane.

[Mornac]

Fine. Argue it with johnhp. He’s a Catholic and he’ll trip over himself to acquiesce to your view of it as long as it sufficiently condemns the Catholic Church. You'll both be happy.

[ivanm]

--This “particular episode”? The only “particular episode” you’ve spoken about here is one where “(t)he Church tried and convicted (Galileo) for heresy”.  Nothing like that ever happened in reality so neither I, nor any other Catholic has any business “reconcile(ing) themselves” with it. Any attempt by us to do so would make us participants in calumny which is a serious sin. You’d do better to investigate the bigoted propaganda you’re being fed before you accept it as fact. And in the future try to avoid getting your information from guys who look like this:

Where did this claim come from, how did it come about?