Romneycare helps illegal immigrants, Los Angeles Times reports

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Romneycare helps illegal immigrants, Los Angeles Times reports

The Los Angeles Times digs into a part of Mitt Romney's health care law that increases access for illegal immigrants, and suggests it may complicate Romney's tough-on-immigration contrast with Rick Perry:

The Massachusetts healthcare law that then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed in 2006 includes a program known as the Health Safety Net, which allows undocumented immigrants to get needed medical care along with others who lack insurance.

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Uninsured, poor immigrants can walk into a health clinic or hospital in the state and get publicly subsidized care at virtually no cost to them, regardless of their immigration status.

The program, widely supported in Massachusetts, drew little attention when Romney signed the trailblazing healthcare law. But now it could prove problematic for the Republican presidential hopeful, who has been attacking Texas Gov. Rick Perry for supporting educational aid for children of undocumented immigrants in Texas.

"We have to turn off the magnet of extraordinary government benefits," Romney said at the recent Fox News-Google debate in Florida. …

The Massachusetts program, which cost more than $400 million last year, paid for 1.1 million hospital and clinic visits. It's unclear how many undocumented patients benefited because the state does not record that data.

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Is this news to you that ANYONE can walk into a clinic or a hospital and be cared for whether you have the ability to pay or not?

It is the Federal and State Law.  Has been for over 30 years.  Probably longer than that.

Welcome to Planet Earth!!

[Pepsi]

Is this news to you that ANYONE can walk into a clinic or a hospital and be cared for whether you have the ability to pay or not?

It is the Federal and State Law.  Has been for over 30 years.  Probably longer than that.

Welcome to Planet Earth!!

Naturally, and that is precisely why everyone should have to buy health insurance (ie a mandate).    However the point is what Romney did in Mass goes against his talking points in this campaign.

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Naturally, and that is precisely why everyone should have to buy health insurance (ie a mandate).   

And those illegals (or anyone else under a million circumstances I could come up with) who don't buy insurance, what?  Turn them away?

I don't think you, or any of your myrmidons, have thought this through.  And I mean at all.

[ivanm]

Naturally, and that is precisely why everyone should have to buy health insurance (ie a mandate).    However the point is what Romney did in Mass goes against his talking points in this campaign.

If those who cannot afford the health insurance premiums are covered anyway or are subsidized on their premiums, then what has been gained?
All it does is to make more jobs for bureaucrats.  I am betting it is cheaper to simply use Medicaid, which is what we already have.

Romney, like other pols, is a flip flopper, and will change his stance or sales pitch to suit the audience he is addressing at the time. So what is new?

Obamacare is not about coverage, it is about a power struggle to nationalize key industries in America.  My experience with VA medicals services tells me that private sector care beats socialized medicine all to hell, both in terms of quality and cost to me.

When are we going to get off this kick that subsidizing losers at the expense of the winners is good national policy?  Too many Euro countries have proven that it is a fallacy.

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Romney, like other pols, is a flip flopper, and will change his stance or sales pitch to suit the audience he is addressing at the time. So what is new?

I actually don't have much of a problem with flip flopping.  It indicates to me an open mind and that they are listening to their constituents when it comes to issues.  Is that bad?

I don't think so.

[ivanm]

I actually don't have much of a problem with flip flopping.  It indicates to me an open mind and that they are listening to their constituents when it comes to issues.  Is that bad?

I don't think so.

Good point, as long as the change in position can be justified with reason and not because of political expedience.

I think that Romney is the most electable of the Pubs at this point in time, but how many people really know anything about him? I am going to wait until after the primaries to take a hard look at the winner.  Hell if it means voting for a rattle snake I will do it in order to get that Jekyll out of the White House.

Romney's association with the Mormon faith does not bother me a bit.  In fact, people need to visit Mormon sites and learn more about these amazingly hardy and resourceful people.  There is a national shrine in Independence, Mo, which is a suburb of KCMO, and the Omaha area has a nice assortment of Mormon museums and artifacts.  A small museum north of Omaha proper speaks of the Mormon trek across the mountains to Utah, and it is really something about the hardships they endured.

If any one suffered, these poor people certainly have bragging rights, so when I hear the blacks bitching or the Jews whining I think of the terrifying winters the Mormons spent moving west.

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so when I hear the blacks bitching or the Jews whining I think of the terrifying winters the Mormons spent moving west.

We get it. You don't want to hear blacks bitch or jews whine, but you sure want your own slice of real estate cut out especially for your own free speech bitching zone. You really are a pathetic piece of work when you come here in your crabass state of mind every morning.

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You really are a pathetic piece of work when you come here in your crabass state of mind every morning.

And, yet, here you are...hovering over every word he types like a fly to a dog turd.

The only fault to your distress over that is yours, sir.

[JC3.0]

And, yet, here you are...hovering over every word he types like a fly to a dog turd.

The only fault to your distress over that is yours, sir.

...said the guy who trolls damn near every post on every thread all day long like an attention whore. Go away.

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...said the guy who trolls damn near every post on every thread all day long like an attention whore. Go away.

I'm not trolling, JohnHP's Wing Man.  I am making an observation.

[Pepsi]

Obamacare is not about coverage, it is about a power struggle to nationalize key industries in America. 

Oh yeah?  What key industries has Obamacare nationalized?

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Oh yeah?  What key industries has Obamacare nationalized?

*sigh*

Sometimes you make me sad.