House GOP reject payroll tax cut extension

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Do i think they will oppose every bit of popular legislation?  i am certain they will.

...and quite a few trillion dollars late at that...

[ivanm]

Who is opposing the sand shale bill?

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Now, you have to ask yourself: "Why would some dipshit in the Oval Office oppose something that is obviously good for our economy?"

Is this bill you speak of relative to the Keystone pipeline? There may be risks associated with fracturing the shale in order to retrieve the gas but NG is a relatively clean burning fuel.  One article on the net stated that gas from shale could be half our NG supply by 2020.

NG also works fairly well in diesel engines if a bit of diesel is also injected into the cylinger to act as a catalyst.  The power output on NG is less than from diesel fuel but the saving grace for NG is that it is available domestically.  Major companies such as CAT make engines that can run on either fuel.

Being a homeowner that uses NG for heat, I don't relish the price of NG going up because of the greater demand for it, but that's life.  If I remember correctly, about 1/4 of our electrical power is generated by gas fired power plants.

I assume the Pubs got  some consideration of the Keystone pipeline study by finally approving the two month tax extension.  Isn't it a shame that the Congress is so partisan that they have to play these games? Will the bitter partisanship ever ease up, even after the next election?  I don't think so, which means that no matter who wins the Presidency we will have continuing gridlock.

I have no idea how it can be done but the people need a mandate that says the idiots in WDC will either work together for the common good or else clean out their desks. However, in fairness to the idiots in the Congress, the voters are so partisan and so factionalized that if such issues could be put to a popular vote I doubt they could agree on many issues, so the gridlock starts at home, so to speak.

It has reached the point that the wishes of special interests take precedence over the wishes of the people as a whole, so it is no wonder the Congress
can't get anything done. Given that situation, the government has become the problem and not the solution to our needs.

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I assume the Pubs got  some consideration of the Keystone pipeline study by finally approving the two month tax extension.

That is exactly what this 60-day extension was all about.  The Keystone project.  Hilariously, the media is reporting that it's the Republicans who are opposing Keystone when, in fact, it is ONLY the Republicans who insist that it proceed forward, and that is what this little clusterfuck was all about.  America vs. Environmentalists.

Now, what is Canada doing while we all sit around and examine our scrotums for the next 60 days?  Negotiating with the Chinese and redirecting the pipeline, and the jobs, and the revenue, to them.

The Republicans have forced Obama to make a decision on Keystone within the next 60 days and he will have to explain to the American public why he opposes jobs if he doesn't go for it.

So, who won?

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The only reason I have been able to determine why anyone would oppose Keystone is because it is privately funded and will be of no benefit, with the exception of additional taxes, to the government.

[ivanm]

The only reason I have been able to determine why anyone would oppose Keystone is because it is privately funded and will be of no benefit, with the exception of additional taxes, to the government.

What no cush jobs shuffling paper for the feather merchants?  Those leeches are disgusting.

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What no cush jobs shuffling paper for the feather merchants?  Those leeches are disgusting.

The problem Obama is facing now is that he is wedged between two special interest groups.

1:  The Greenies (environmentalists) and
2:  Unions.

The Greenies do NOT want this pipeline as it will murder Mother Earth, whereas the Unions are screaming for jobs.

What the GOP have accomplished by agreeing to this 60 day cut is an absolute requirement that Obama make a decision by February on what his intentions are going to be on this issue.

No matter which way Obama goes on this, he is going to lose the other side's vote and funding.

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Blumenthal, the Seattle-based co-president of Climate Solutions, added a warning: “If he [Obama] caves and supports the pipeline, it’s game over for both the climate and my support of the president.”

Last week, Blumenthal and Betsy Taylor, a philanthropic adviser to several climate donors and foundations, helped organize a letter to the White House and Obama’s Chicago campaign headquarters from more than 85 donors and volunteers from the 2008 campaign, urging the president to lead on climate change. Taylor said Obama now has a chance to prove his chops.

“If the president waffles on this or fails to act decisively, it will send a huge chill through the community,” she said. “Will people vote for him? Yes. Will they work for him, raise money for him and activate their networks for him? Not likely.”

Labor groups are also keeping close tabs on the pipeline decision. Terry O’Sullivan, general president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America, said last week before the final Senate deal was struck that the pipeline would create jobs for thousands of construction workers.
“For them, it is not just a pipeline; it’s a lifeline,” he said. “Continued delay of this important project is an unacceptable insult to men and women who are trained and able to build the infrastructure that keeps the American economy moving forward.”
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters also supports the Keystone pipeline, but a spokesman declined to comment Saturday on the 60-day deadline included in the Senate compromise.

At the other end of the political spectrum, Republicans, from the presidential contenders to Capitol Hill to industry, are itching for a fight.

“The president of the United States cannot figure out that it is — I’m using mild words here — utterly irrational to say, ‘I’m now going to veto a middle-class tax cut to protect left-wing environmental extremists in San Francisco,” Newt Gingrich said last week in Iowa during the final GOP presidential debate for 2011.

Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) said Obama would be reopening a political can of worms if he decides early next year not to let the pipeline go forward.

“The language that passed the House is that the president has to say in 60 days if he wants to stop the pipeline, and it’s not in the national interest,” Barrasso said. “And if he wants to make that case and he wants to then extend the tax relief further than the two months, it’s gonna be right back on the table again.”

Industry groups that favor the pipeline plan to keep the pressure up, too. On Friday, the American Petroleum Institute made a bit of a splash by inviting former Obama National Security Adviser Jim Jones onto a press call to urge passage of the Keystone language.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70620_Page2.html#ixzz1hYmc9xDT

[ivanm]

The problem Obama is facing now is that he is wedged between two special interest groups.

1:  The Greenies (environmentalists) and
2:  Unions.

The Greenies do NOT want this pipeline as it will murder Mother Earth, whereas the Unions are screaming for jobs.

What the GOP have accomplished by agreeing to this 60 day cut is an absolute requirement that Obama make a decision by February on what his intentions are going to be on this issue.

No matter which way Obama goes on this, he is going to lose the other side's vote and funding.

I think it is time the silent majority needs to wake up and take America back.  We have played second fiddle to the minorities and the special interest groups for decades now, and what has it bought us? Unmanageable national debt, lost job base that will never come back, and a bunch of self centered mongrels in the WH and in the Congress.  Maybe those thugs need to stand in an unemployment and freeze their butts off.

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I think it is time the silent majority needs to wake up and take America back.  We have played second fiddle to the minorities and the special interest groups for decades now, and what has it bought us? Unmanageable national debt, lost job base that will never come back, and a bunch of self centered mongrels in the WH and in the Congress.  Maybe those thugs need to stand in an unemployment and freeze their butts off.

Well, nobody wants to be on the side of voting for poisons in our water and air by NOT supporting the Tree Huggers.  Nobody wants to be perceived as a litterbug who doesn't care about our environment.  No one wants to be labeled as someone who has no care at all about destroying our planet through "Man Made Global Warming."

Because the Polar Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

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85 Polar Bears Died Making This Commercial For Green Peace...

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