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« on: December 10, 2011, 10:40:15 AM »

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Does it not trouble you that falsehood, deception and lies are the foundations of modern day liberalism.  Liberals would have us believe that man made global warming is proven and, according to Al Gore, “ the debate is over.”  They want us to believe that the theory of evolution is proven as well.  Liberals also want us to believe that current spending patterns in our federal government are sustainable forever, that we need more government to protect us from greedy capitalists, that conservatives want grandma to eat dog food and that we must increase taxes, regulate health care, banking and energy in order for our nation and the earth of be safe and to prosper.

None of those concepts are true, yet liberals would have us believe all of them.  Why?  Why is liberalism based on deception?  What is the purpose of liberalism?

Liberalism is nothing more, nothing less, than a return of the power to rule, from the people, to the elite few.  It is a philosophy that assumes that the common man is not smart enough to govern himself, therefore, the enlightened few must save the masses from themselves.  Liberalism also assumes that God does not exist,  that the rule of law means nothing, that rights are determined by man not by God and that the means justifies the end.  In short, liberalism is a man made philosophy that is motivated by the desire to assume greater power and control.

So, if we understand what liberalism is and what it’s aims are, then it starts to make sense that liberalism is supported by falsehoods.  If the common man knows the truth he is not going to be willing to allow liberals to tax and spend and assume more and more power over him in an attempt to save him from so called man-made global warming, for example.

Look at all the money that has been spent and the power that has been assumed by government in the name of protecting our planet from man-made global warming.  We have regulated and over-regulated recovery of cheap sources of energy and replaced them with expensive and inefficient green energy wind-farms and solar energy.  The government has also subsidized expensive electric vehicles because of the lies associated with the bogus theory of man-made global warming.

And look at the cost in freedoms and money that Obamacare will be if it is fully instituted?  Obamacare solves nothing.  It makes health-care less accessible, more expensive and less profitable for health-care providers all the while it adds layers of bureaucracy upon the people and upon the health-care system as a whole.  It will cost us more and drive down the quality of care all the while we lose power and control over our personal health-care decisions, notwithstanding all the rhetoric to the contrary from Obama and friends.  How do liberals sell this to us?  They don’t tell us the truth or fairly debate the fact, instead they sell us a pack of lies.  They tell us Obamacare is going to be better for us and less expensive and that we will be able to keep our doctors and our current insurance program.  Lies, lies, lies.  They lie to us in order to take power and freedom away from us.  Why?  Because that is what liberals do.  The means justifies the end.

What evidence is there that capitalism, freedom in the marketplace, has failed us?  Capitalism over that past 200 plus years has taken our nation and the world from the horse and buggy days to the days of comfort and wealth.  We have gone from outdoor toilets, poor health-care practices, manual labor, coal oil and whale oil lamps, slow communications and transportation to almost universal access to health care, automobiles, computers, televisions, cell phones, indoor plumbing, electricity, access to a wide variety of  inexpensive food, clothing and consumer products… and the list could go on forever.  None of those advances happened because the government was regulating the market, they all happened because someone was motivated to make a profit.

It is only as government has regulated and restricted the market, at all levels, that our economy has gone in the tank, jobs have been lost and our inner cities have fallen into decay and now the libs are blaming the free-market for the economic collapse we are in.

The profit motive has elevated the quality of life for all of us.  It has provided us with less expensive goods and services, better jobs, better working conditions and greater freedoms, yet liberals would have us believe that big business is evil and that the rich must “pay their fair share” of taxes even though they are already paying way more than their share.  Lies, lies lies and more lies, and yet many people-way too many people- believe those lies.

The next time you hear anyone tell you that government is the answer, that there is no longer any debate about the science, that you must pay more taxes or that government can not cut spending, question their motives.  They are not looking out for you, they are trying to grab more power.

Wake up America, liberalism has never been that answer, it has always been the problem.  It still is.  Liberalism is based on falsehood.

http://drclarkjensen.com/why-do-liberals-lie/


Conclusion:  Liberals lie because they cannot sell their shit to America...and they know it.

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 10:49:40 AM »

Once you've watched liberals long enough to understand how they think -- scratch that, how they feel -- they become extraordinarily predictable.

To begin with, the liberal agenda is, in many respects, the same as it was in the thirties. Whether you call it communism, fascism, socialism, liberalism, or progressivism, the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with, the way they sell it to people, and the latest trendy name for what they believe.

So, once the liberals pick a policy from their stale program to push, the next step is to get it implemented. This is where liberals have problems because whether a policy makes sense, is practical, or actually improves people's lives is of secondary importance to them. What is important to liberals is whether supporting or opposing that policy makes them feel good about themselves.

This is why liberals continue to support dysfunctional policies that have been failing miserably for decades and why they often oppose common sense programs that have been proven to work time and time again -- because it isn't about whether it works or not, it's about how it makes them feel.

In other words, a liberal will almost always prefer a policy that's extremely expensive, is difficult to implement, helps almost no one, but seems "nice" -- to a policy that is cheap, simple to implement, extremely effective, and seems "mean."

However, since most Americans make decisions about policies based on whether or not they believe the policy makes people's lives better or worse, liberals have had to become habitually dishonest about what they believe and want to do to get their ideas put into action.

This is a point worth stressing because many people who aren't familiar with politics believe that conservatives and liberals are simply flip sides of the same coin and therefore, approach issues the same way. However, conservatives genuinely believe that this is a center-right country. That's why conservatives have no qualms about being publicly labeled as conservatives and it's part of the reason why we're much more honest than the Left -- because we believe that a majority of the American people generally agree with us and share our values.

So, those of us on the Right spend our time trying to explain to the American people what we really want to do, while the Left spends its time trying to hide what it really wants to do from the American people.

Because of this, when liberals don't feel that the political winds are blowing in their direction, not only will they generally avoid discussing the things they believe, they will typically deny that they believe them at all.

Additionally, liberals go to bizarre lengths to tilt the political playing field in their favor. They move into the mainstream media so that they can tip what are supposed to be "objective" news stories in their favor. They get into positions of power in our educational system so that they can teach kids liberal propaganda before they're old enough to know better. They uniformly support judges who care nothing about the Constitution as long as it moves liberal ideological goals forward. Even the Left's support of illegal immigration is rooted in the desire to bring in millions of poor people from socialist countries who are more likely to vote Democratic. If they can't convince the American voters they're right, then they'll just bring in some new voters.

More disturbing is the Left's ever-increasing reliance on what are commonly thought of as fascist tactics. Liberals at college campuses attempt to disrupt conservative speeches and the Democrats want to try to drive conservative talk radio hosts off the air with the Fairness Doctrine. Conservatives like Tom DeLay, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter have been targeted criminally for political reasons and there's even talk of trying to jail members of the Bush Administration over policy differences after they're out of office. Ideological soulmates of modern liberals -- like Stalin, Lenin, and Mao -- would certainly approve of those tactics.

Still, even though this is a center-right country, we do have political cycles and there are times when those cycles favor the Left. When that happens and the Lefties start to get a bit more confident, usually a few liberals at the edges will start talking about what they want to do. At that early point, most other liberals will still vehemently deny their ideological goals to the public out of fear that it will prevent them from getting into power.

However, when the Left gains enough strength to be capable of getting one of the policies they favor implemented, all the liberals who previously denied that they supported it will unapologetically shift on a dime and vote for it en masse -- while they rely on their ideological allies in the media and the fact that many Americans are ill informed about politics to cover their tracks.

So, if you want to know what liberals want to do, their words mean absolutely nothing because lying about their agenda has become as natural to them as chasing a cat is to a dog.

Instead, what you have to do is watch what other liberals have done when they have come into power. Look at Canada, where conservatives are being put on trial for hate crimes because they've dared to criticize Muslims. Look at European countries, where they have socialistic economies, sky high tax rates, rigid speech codes, and overweening nannystates. You can even look at liberal enclaves in the United States like Berkeley and San Francisco, where members of the military are treated like pariahs and they boo the national anthem.

Leftists Booing During The Star Spangled Banner (national anthem)


If you believe the liberals in Berkeley, France, Canada or for that matter in the bowels of the Daily Kos or Huffington Post, are significantly different than, say Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, you are kidding yourself. The only differences are in what they think they can get away with and how honest they are willing to be about their agenda.

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 12:27:27 PM »

There.  Isn't that a productive argument?  We can call each other the same names.  Oh, happy day!

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 04:16:14 PM »

We lived through conservatism from 2000 -2008 and we see what that brought us.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 06:44:39 PM »

We lived through conservatism from 2000 -2008 and we see what that brought us.


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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 06:48:27 PM »

Another stupid comment by the conservatives in denial. You know what we got *#!%#. We got  a damn near dead economy and the worst recession since the great depression.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 06:55:02 PM »

Conclusion:  Liberals lie because they cannot sell their shit to America...and they know it.

Ha!

You're a joke Bad. The "noble lie" is your ideology, prescribed by the few intellectuals that are actually behind your movement.

Nice projection though.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 02:37:22 PM »

Another stupid comment by the conservatives in denial. You know what we got *#!%#. We got  a damn near dead economy and the worst recession since the great depression.


....yep.....thanks to Bush and his cousin Obama!  Roll Eyes .........it runs in the family blood line.......
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 04:54:42 PM »

Liberals don't mind living a lie because they count on mob power and mob rule to make themselves feel good.  Whether or not their policies or ideas have any merit is beside the point because their self centered ego is all that matters to them.

I mean, when you are spending someone else's money why worry about playing fast and loose with it?
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 05:01:24 PM »

Apparently, conservatives don't mind living a lie because they surround themselves with similarly closed-minded, intellectually-shallow compatriots and chant their inane mantras back and forth between each other. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 05:07:23 PM »

Apparently, conservatives don't mind living a lie because they surround themselves with similarly closed-minded, intellectually-shallow compatriots and chant their inane mantras back and forth between each other. 

Was the irony in the above post on purpose?
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 05:08:20 PM »

Apparently, conservatives don't mind living a lie because they surround themselves with similarly closed-minded, intellectually-shallow compatriots and chant their inane mantras back and forth between each other. 
Sure thing, about half the voter base is conservative, and growing.  You see, conservatives learn from their mistakes.
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2011, 05:10:14 PM »

Sure thing, about half the voter base is conservative, and growing.  You see, conservatives learn from their mistakes.

There's no evidence of that so far in the current election cycle.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 08:47:43 PM »

I have asked this before, but it would be helpful to define what is truly "conservative" and what is "liberal" in your honest opinion.

And without party politics as a guide.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 10:28:24 PM »

I have asked this before, but it would be helpful to define what is truly "conservative" and what is "liberal" in your honest opinion.

And without party politics as a guide.

I think there are a couple of aspects to it.  Most conservatives tend to want smaller government, with the government doing less.  Most liberals see more need for government to provide services that cannot be provided equitably by the private sector, or perhaps should not be provided in a for-profit manner.  There are extremists on both sides, but among the mainstream the difference is only a matter of degree.  

The other aspect is in social matters.  Many conservatives, social conservatives, seem to have an idea about how people should live their lives morally and tend toward trying to enforce their moral view of the world onto everyone else.
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