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« on: December 03, 2007, 05:13:12 PM »

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Muslims Condemn Violence

Updated:16:25, Tuesday April 17, 2007
Muslims in the UK are more likely to unequivocally condemn the use of violence to further a "noble cause" than the general public.
A survey of London Muslims found 81% believed such violence was "completely unjustified" compared to 72% of the UK general public.


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I found this interesting, though it does surprise me that as many as 72% of the British in general find violence used to further a noble cause to be unacceptable, I know I don't.

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 07:38:50 AM »

That is an interesting poll.. it may have been affected by the perceptions of the people being polled, for example perhaps they were concerned that the pollster was really working for the government intelligence or something.   
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 08:45:32 AM »

Sometimes the answer to a question depends upon how it is asked.  How people would define "noble" would have much to do with their answer.  Whether they regard "noble" as being about morality or just ego.  Even "morality" can have different meanings, and depends upon whose standards.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 06:17:51 AM »

That is an interesting poll.. it may have been affected by the perceptions of the people being polled, for example perhaps they were concerned that the pollster was really working for the government intelligence or something.   
I think you have a point. Although I doubt answers were effected by concerns regarding the security services, more likely those polled would be acutely aware of how their answers could be used negatively against the British Muslims as a whole.

Personally speaking, I would prefer to learn that the vast majority of British citizens of whatever race or religion would be prepared to stand up and be counted when it comes down to a "noble cause". It should all depend on who's definition of 'noble' one is being asked to fight.

I would not stand silent while my rights and freedoms were being eroded, but it's all a matter of degree. I certainly would not support the targeting of innocents to further a cause, however 'noble'.

In some ways I see Arabs and Brits as having very similar attitudes when it comes to self-determination.

 
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 04:20:14 PM »

Those who might judge a cause as "noble" can just as easily define what the meaning of "innocent" is....
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 11:04:23 AM »

Those who might judge a cause as "noble" can just as easily define what the meaning of "innocent" is....
'Innocent' and 'noble' are just words. Like 'torture', no one really needs a legal definition in order to know in their heart-of-hearts what they really mean.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 02:08:54 PM »

We need to listen to our "heart-of-hearts" more, then.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 03:45:00 PM »

We need to listen to our "heart-of-hearts" more, then.
When in doubt, do the right thing. The rest of the time, get away with whatever you can get away with.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 04:51:47 PM »

There are some people I guess, like me, who don't seem to be able to get away with anything....

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