Re: Israel Is At It Again......

[Michael]

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If you want to be what you want to be then try keeping your views on religion to yourself.
It is ok to believe something but quite another to insult others by beating them over the head with you views.

Religion is a crutch Michael and some of us don't need a crutch to the extent that you do.  That is your problem, not ours. 

What are you...some control freak? 

It is ok for you to give your opinion here...but not ok for me to give mine? 

What a load of b.s. 

I didn't START the insults about how I can't submit my opinions on this forum.

I also didn't mention anything about being "what I want to be".  My statement was about being WHAT I AM.

Religion is only a crutch for those who THINK that it is for a crutch.  Not for those who know its truths.

You have me COMPLETELY WRONG.

I'm a working man.  NOT in an office dilbert or a retiree putzing around the house with little hobbies and such. 

You want to insult me?  Quit crying when I give it right back to you. 

[Observer]

 

[ivanm]

What are you...some control freak? 

It is ok for you to give your opinion here...but not ok for me to give mine? 

What a load of b.s. 

I didn't START the insults about how I can't submit my opinions on this forum.

I also didn't mention anything about being "what I want to be".  My statement was about being WHAT I AM.

Religion is only a crutch for those who THINK that it is for a crutch.  Not for those who know its truths.

You have me COMPLETELY WRONG.

I'm a working man.  NOT in an office dilbert or a retiree putzing around the house with little hobbies and such. 

You want to insult me?  Quit crying when I give it right back to you. 

For openers, you need to stop hijacking every damned thread with your ministry. Try yiour own thread and see what kind of a response you will get.  I still work although I am retired, another thing about me that you got wrong.

So you are a working man.  Do I detect more jealousy there? You don't have the brains to hold a good office job so you "work".  Once again, that is not my problem but yours.
Is everyone supposed to slow down and wait for you to catch up?  Try some schooling if you envy the office dilbert.
 
What are you?  I'll tell you what you are?  Not the Dali Lama that's for damned sure. You are a boring imposter, a charlatan as Vel said.  In other words a damned fraud.

If what you are is running half naked in the woods and hunting for a living I suppose that can be arranged.  Be sure and take your drums with you so when you get tired of playing Tarzan you can amuse yourself.

There you go again with the truths of your religion.   What do your fantasies buy you but a lot of criticism from normal mainstream people?  What are you wanting from us, society a rubber room.

Do you really think that most people on this forum buy your act or really give a shit for your childish rants?  More visions of granduer?

[Velleity]

What are you...some control freak? 

It is ok for you to give your opinion here...but not ok for me to give mine? 

What a load of b.s. 

I didn't START the insults about how I can't submit my opinions on this forum.

I also didn't mention anything about being "what I want to be".  My statement was about being WHAT I AM.

Religion is only a crutch for those who THINK that it is for a crutch.  Not for those who know its truths.

You have me COMPLETELY WRONG.

I'm a working man.  NOT in an office dilbert or a retiree putzing around the house with little hobbies and such. 

You want to insult me?  Quit crying when I give it right back to you. 

What is it exactly that you think you're doing Arch?

[ivanm]

He has been at it for years now but I don't think he still knows what he is doing.

Michael can be a fun person, if he'd just stay off the soap box. He is the pastor and we are his congregation, sort of a cyber ministry thing?

[Michael]

For openers, you need to stop hijacking every damned thread with your ministry. Try yiour own thread and see what kind of a response you will get.  I still work although I am retired, another thing about me that you got wrong.

Never said (or even knew) that you were retired.  I only spoke of myself regarding your supposed need to feel that I required a crutch. 

Religion is everything to those who know its reality.  Someone starts in about the Apache...they are confronting the religious faith as well.  I WILL defend it.

So you are a working man.  Do I detect more jealousy there? You don't have the brains to hold a good office job so you "work".  Once again, that is not my problem but yours.
Is everyone supposed to slow down and wait for you to catch up?  Try some schooling if you envy the office dilbert.

Again...you are wrong.  I was just offered an office position and turned it down.  At least one other man here agreed with me that he couldn't just sit at a desk either.

My point being that I am not too old to require a desk job, I have my health, and a good woman.  I don't need a crutch.

So quit harping on me for simply defending myself from YOUR insults.
 

What are you?  I'll tell you what you are?  Not the Dali Lama that's for damned sure. You are a boring imposter, a charlatan as Vel said.  In other words a damned fraud.

Whatever makes you feel better.  Try backing off the insults and I won't make you feel so inadequate that you make things up to save face.

If what you are is running half naked in the woods and hunting for a living I suppose that can be arranged.  Be sure and take your drums with you so when you get tired of playing Tarzan you can amuse yourself.

I have no idea what you are talking about.  You seem to have the impression that Indians/Africans live in grass huts these days or something.  Not true.  Do the research. 

It's not about living like "natives" versus technology.  It is about people moving so quickly to bury themselves so deeply in it....THEN counting themselves superior because of it.   You simply refuse to understand that so you make it something else.

I never once said I had a problem with technology.  I love it.  It is one of the great things about being alive...let alone an expedient means to salvation itself.

There you go again with the truths of your religion.   What do your fantasies buy you but a lot of criticism from normal mainstream people?  What are you wanting from us, society a rubber room.

Do you really think that most people on this forum buy your act or really give a shit for your childish rants?  More visions of granduer?

I will defend myself, voice my opinion, and point out obvious errors for the sake of the betterment of humankind and its eventual salvation.

If people have a problem with that...THEY have the problem.  Not me.

This forum is not just yours exclusively, or for those who think someone should be silenced or evicted because their opinions don't match some general concensus. 
Or have I missed something?  Newsrake is about biased opinions only?  Not ACTUALLY balanced?

[Velleity]

I have no idea what you are talking about. 

I know this is directed at Ivan. I don't speak for him, but I have no idea what you are talking about either and from what I glean from Ivan's posts I think he doesn't know what you're talking about either.

The thing is, Archie, I don't think you know what you're talking about either.

[ivanm]

I know this is directed at Ivan. I don't speak for him, but I have no idea what you are talking about either and from what I glean from Ivan's posts I think he doesn't know what you're talking about either.

The thing is, Archie, I don't think you know what you're talking about either.

I think that Lucy moved this abomination to Theology so it would be out of of the mainstream topics.  So let's take the hint and leave him to stew in his juices.  He is like other self centered egotists, just cannot stand being ignored because he thrives on attention.

And if he comes back to the other threads spewing more of his bullshit we need to drum him off the forum.  I sure wish the ignore feature still worked.  That would really roast his balls.

He reminds me of a Negro in that he thinks just because he is a minority he is a sacred cow and we are obligated to put up with his rants.

[Velleity]

Ivan, I have nothing against Archie. I have always said that he's eccentric. I honestly have no idea what he's talking about and I honestly don't think he knows, either.

While I have called bullshit on his New Age psychobabble, it doesn't mean I think he's a bad guy. I asked him to explain himself. I don't think he's up to it, myself. But maybe he'll surprise me?

[Michael]

I know this is directed at Ivan. I don't speak for him, but I have no idea what you are talking about either and from what I glean from Ivan's posts I think he doesn't know what you're talking about either.

The thing is, Archie, I don't think you know what you're talking about either.

You have the right to that opinion.  Like I have the right to mine as well. 

You started the arguement with my supposed having no right to opinions of Apache perspectives on global matters.

Sometimes the simplest/down-to-earth perspectives are the best.  Particularly when they are ancient born of greater perspectives of understandings.

Not that I expect you to understand what I am saying...so just leave it at that.

[Michael]

Ivan, I have nothing against Archie. I have always said that he's eccentric. I honestly have no idea what he's talking about and I honestly don't think he knows, either.

While I have called bullshit on his New Age psychobabble, it doesn't mean I think he's a bad guy. I asked him to explain himself. I don't think he's up to it, myself. But maybe he'll surprise me?

Religion is "new age"? 

Just because you don't understand much of it (or even THINK that you DO) doesn't mean anything you haven't heard before is "new age".

[Velleity]

You have the right to that opinion.  Like I have the right to mine as well. 

You started the arguement with my supposed having no right to opinions of Apache perspectives on global matters.

I said you have no understanding of Arabs, as far as I can tell, and thus you had no idea what you were talking about. I never said you had no right to opinions.

Sometimes the simplest/down-to-earth perspectives are the best.  Particularly when they are ancient born of greater perspectives of understandings.

You have no perspective on Arabs. That's about as simple as it gets.

[Velleity]

Religion is "new age"? 

Just because you don't understand much of it (or even THINK that you DO) doesn't mean anything you haven't heard before is "new age".

You are definitely New Age, and you definitely do New Age psychobabble.

I notice that you didn't answer my question, as I predicted.

[Hollybaere]

I said you have no understanding of Arabs.

You have no perspective on Arabs. That's about as simple as it gets.

Neither do you!

I'm not so sure you have any perspective on Jews either. At least not the ones who live in Israel.

[ivanm]

Neither do you!

I'm not so sure you have any perspective on Jews either. At least not the ones who live in Israel.

I don't think it takes a mental giant to figure out what the Arabs want of the Jews and of us for that matter.  This struggle has been going on since the advent of Islam.