Novus ordo Catholic Campaign for Human Development advances the culture of death

[Mornac]

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"Only a true Catholic nation, in fact, will survive - can survive - because only truly Catholic people will be the ones looking at God and not staring in the mirror. When they cast their votes, they cast them with an eye to what God desires. Not fallen human nature.

But as the body politic continues to be ravaged by the cancer of ignorant, self-centered voters it becomes more and more clear that a national euthanasia is occurring.

But in truth, this is really the way the whole idea of democracy is little less than an experiment doomed to failure from the outset. Eventually the evil in the heart of man overtakes him when he dismisses God.

Now the only way to run a country is by benevolent dictatorship. A Catholic monarch who protects his people from themselves and bestows on them what they need. Not necessarily what they want. Who protects their rights as human beings. It was this political system that caused Europe to emerge from the morass of marauding barbarians and create Western civilization. A noble Catholic monarch advances the common good while loving and caring for his people." ~ Michael Voris

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[ivanm]

"Only a true Catholic nation, in fact, will survive - can survive - because only truly Catholic people will be the ones looking at God and not staring in the mirror. When they cast their votes, they cast them with an eye to what God desires. Not fallen human nature.

But as the body politic continues to be ravaged by the cancer of ignorant, self-centered voters it becomes more and more clear that a national euthanasia is occurring.

But in truth, this is really the way the whole idea of democracy is little less than an experiment doomed to failure from the outset. Eventually the evil in the heart of man overtakes him when he dismisses God.

Now the only way to run a country is by benevolent dictatorship. A Catholic monarch who protects his people from themselves and bestows on them what they need. Not necessarily what they want. Who protects their rights as human beings. It was this political system that caused Europe to emerge from the morass of marauding barbarians and create Western civilization. A noble Catholic monarch advances the common good while loving and caring for his people." ~ Michael Voris


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I  think the Christian religion has a better chance of surviving and thriving in a western style of democracy than in an authoritative style of government like we are seeing in the ME.

Mornac harps on the abuse of Catholics with numbers of articles and yet this Voris guy is saying that Christianity will do best under a dictator.  Yes, some dictators seem to be benevolent, but are they even handed?  Perhaps one of the better dictators was Mr. Mubarak of Egypt.

This video smacks of legalism. 

[johnhp]

This video smacks of legalism. 

No, it smacks of the fascism with which you were so comfortable yesterday.

[ivanm]

The last video seems to be a rerun of the first one.  I do have a question for Mornac.

The video implies that a poor person's receipt of assistance from the Catholics is dependent on him submitting himself to Christ.  This is often the case
with faith based charities but to me that is not true altruism but is giving with strings attached.

What if the needy person is a Jew or a Muslim?  Can he reasonably  be expected to convert to Chrisitanity?  I think this attitude on the part of Voris constitutes self absorption of the Catholic church as an entity itself.  

When I give to the Salvation Army I don't question the man's faith or what is to be done with my donation because I assume the organization will treat all people the same regardless of their religious outlook.  In fact I give the bell ringers a little treat for themselves to enjoy, such as candy or some other edible item.  Wal Mart and Sam's Club
have been kind enough to let the solicitors come in out of the  cold and rain when the weather is bad and I am real pleased about that because a lot of companies make them stay outside the building.

[ivanm]

As much as I criticize the Voris videos and Mornac for his rather closed minded views on some issues I still believe that America would be a stronger and more cohesive nation if more people had strong religious convictions.  Faith gives people hope, and the doctrine gives them a sense of justice and provides them with a moral rudder.  As an example, the Ten Commandments are a good deal for everyone and our civil law is based very much on such concepts of morality.

[johnhp]

As much as I criticize the Voris videos and Mornac for his rather closed minded views on some issues I still believe that America would be a stronger and more cohesive nation if more people had strong religious convictions.  Faith gives people hope, and the doctrine gives them a sense of justice and provides them with a moral rudder.  As an example, the Ten Commandments are a good deal for everyone and our civil law is based very much on such concepts of morality.

Mornac's faith is not about hope.  He, like yourself, prefers the dour face of fascism to hope.

[ivanm]

Mornac's faith is not about hope.  He, like yourself, prefers the dour face of fascism to hope.

Are you suggesting that socialism fosters hope?

[johnhp]

Are you suggesting that socialism fosters hope?

Who was discussing socialism?  But while we are on the topic of fascism, let's go to its home.  Italy.


You know who said this?

“The priest’s tunic is just a longer blackshirt.”

Traditionalist Priest and Fascist Giulio Tam.  He leads a pilgrimage to Mussolini's tomb three times a year...thinks Mussolini should be made a saint.


http://www.i-italy.org/7701/blessed-fascism

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[JC3.0]

Take your catholic bullshit somewhere where there are catholics who might give a shit. You post this shit and nobody cares. You are swaying nobody's opinions. If you need to get a message out, take it somewhere that it might actually belong. This is not a catholic forum and nobody is begging you or even interested in these "newsflashes" or your opinion. Take it to a catholic forum. Get it the fuck out of here.....

[johnhp]

JC

Maybe he could take it to a place where people can make the following comments without any sort of opposition

It was true that in his early days, Mussolini was a socialist, but thank God he became a fascist.
Fascism is a superior political system to democracy- it forces the nation to not depend on international banks, or economies, and to force all parties both labor and business to compromise for the good of the nation. It was the fascists that sought a peace, a rehabilitation and a working towards some role for the Church in Italian Social Economic and Political society [after the Italian pseudo-unification violently tore church and state apart]. And it was the fascists who created a "concordat" for Church and State to work together for the good of the Italian nation, and brought a restoration of a Papal State for the Holy Father. Some word of correction: Mussolini did not want to form any alliance with Hitler- In fact, Austria and Italy had an anti-Nazi alliance and the deal was that if Hitler invaded Austria, then Italy would have to come to the aid of Austria. The problem was that Mussolini invaded Ethiopia. It was thought that Ethiopia would be "easy picking", but it turned out that the Ethiopians gave the Italians "their money's worth". So Mussolini had to take and mobilize the whole Italian army to win. However, in doing so, Hitler found the opportunity he wanted: he invaded Austria and Mussolini could do nothing, because the Italian troops were all committed and tied down to winning the Ethiopian war. And it was a strange war. Mussolini invaded Ethiopia not really for the land, but because as he put it, 50 years earlier Italy had been humilited at the Battle of Adwa and lost the war, and Italy needed to revenge its defeat. Back then, King Menelilk II took the many thousands of Italian soldiers prisoners of war and had them all hung upside down and castrated. For a Christian country [ethiopia] this was not to be expected Christian behaviour- since punishment must be proportional and with mercy and Christian Love. Mussolini wanted to teach them a lesson. But this vengence forced Mussolini to not be able to provide the necessary military response needed to fight Hitler.

http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39578

[JC3.0]

It would be entirely different if there catholics here and they were already engaged in conversations about the "church" novus ordo,maryknoll, or whatever the fuck. But there aren't. He needs to take his vortex bullshit to a forum were they may actually be interested. This clearly is not that place.

[SufferedMoreThanJesus]

You post this shit and nobody cares.

Why are you reading, and ironically responding to, it if you don't care?

Like, WTF?