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« on: October 29, 2011, 07:00:31 PM »

Kaiser Poll: Opposition to Obamacare Hits Highest Point

October 28, 2011

Americans' opposition to President Barack Obama's healthcare reform  has reached its highest point since the law passed in March 2010, according to a monthly poll by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

The view of the law has been roughly evenly split since its passage, but this month, 51 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion, while 34 percent said their opinion was favorable, poll results released Friday showed.

In September, the split was 43 percent to 41 percent. And October's gap is closest to the one the poll tracked in July 2010, when the division was 50 percent to 35 percent.

The gap widened largely because the law appeared to be falling out of favor with Democrats, whose support dropped to its lowest point of 52 percent from 65 percent in September.

Although Democrats were still much likelier to view the law favorably than Republicans or independents, the percentage of Democrats who said they and their families were better off under the healthcare law dropped significantly to 27 percent in October from 43 percent in September.

As Republican candidates are gearing up in the effort to unseat Obama in 2012, the healthcare law has become one of the major sticking points and Mitt Romney's campaign has fielded shots at his own healthcare law in Massachusetts that, his opponents argue, closely mirrors Obama's.

The Kaiser poll in October found that almost three-quarters of Americans and about 70 percent of likely Republican primary voters didn't know enough about former Massachusett Governor Romney's law to form an opinion about it, judge its effectiveness or compare it to Obama's.

The Kaiser Health Tracking Poll surveyed a nationally representative random sample of 1,223 Americans 18 and older between October 13 and 18 through telephone interviews.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/health-care-obamacare-support/2011/10/28/id/416039

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 07:03:01 PM »

Newsmax and worldnutsdaily are heavily invested in anti-obama misinformation and propaganda. I hardly take anything posted from those sites as credible. They are like supplements to Fuck's Noise.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 07:05:02 PM »

Kaiser Poll: Opposition to Obamacare Hits Highest Point



MSM expects us to believe, since they've been reporting it as such, that more people want Obamacare than ever before!

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 07:07:50 PM »

and if it didn't get reported by Newsmax.................

what if the same story was a wire from............oh, I dunno........Reuters....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/28/us-usa-health-kaiser-idUSTRE79R0IP20111028
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 07:16:35 PM »

No difference to me because I know there are a large number of people who want Obama to fail, so it would stand to reason that ANY kind of poll they can point to that paints him negatively-they will. I believe more people are actually glad he is trying to do something, and if it pisses people like you off-I actually think he is doing the right thing. Obamacare can be adjusted as we go along to be fixed or improved. I believe it was more important to do SOMETHING, rather than nothing. Funny, when it was "Romneycare-before it was ever Obamacare, I never heard a peep from people like you complaining about it...
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 07:30:23 PM »

"No difference to me"

well, your first post was all about ragging the source

"Newsmax and worldnutsdaily are heavily invested in anti-obama misinformation and propaganda. I hardly take anything posted from those sites as credible. They are like supplements to Fuck's Noise."

"because I know there are a large number of people who want Obama to fail"

about 60% if you read any poll out there

"Obamacare can be adjusted"

and if he would have manned up and held out for some form of single payer when he had the momentum and the overwhelming numbers, he would "likely" be getting more respect from his own

you don't get 60% against you from just the opposition, it's rot from within
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 07:33:31 PM »

Funny, when it was "Romneycare-before it was ever Obamacare, I never heard a peep from people like you complaining about it...

Could that have been because it only had an impact upon the citizens of Massachusetts and not The Nation?

You'd think he would have taken a hint from the Clue Bus when it ran over his black ass and not gone forward with a universal healthcare system since the fucker failed in Massachusetts, huh?
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 07:46:37 PM »

This is not to say that Americans are anti health care.  No.  Overwhelmingly Americans WANT a universal healthcare system.  Something in the neighborhood of 80% want universal healthcare.

Guess what?  They don't want this dog turd called Obamacare.  Why not?  Because it's totally fucked up and it's going to cost everyone a fortune.

That's why not.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 07:50:55 PM »

I'll believe Americans DON'T want Obamacare when I see them occupying many cities protesting, as they are doing now for OWS. Otherwise, you can keep showing me all the bogus polls you want skewed with slanted samples. If Obamacare was as hated as you say it is-where are the spontaneous protests?
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 07:51:30 PM »

Could that have been because it only had an impact upon the citizens of Massachusetts and not The Nation?

romney wanted to roll it out nationwide.

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You'd think he would have taken a hint from the Clue Bus when it ran over his black ass and not gone forward with a universal healthcare system since the fucker failed in Massachusetts, huh?

romney still hails it as a massive success although now that he's running,  he's backtracked on his former stance that it would work nationwide.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 07:55:25 PM »

romney wanted to roll it out nationwide.

So-the-fuck-what?  Some piece of shit Governor from a tiny slice of America "wants" something?  So-fucking-what?

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romney still hails it as a massive success although now that he's running,  he's backtracked on his former stance that it would work nationwide.

It is/was covered in Fail Sauce.  That's why it's no longer in effect.  That's why Obamacare is going to be either repealed or every State in the country will get a waiver from a new Administration.  It's swimming in the same Sauce.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 07:58:38 PM »

Good luck on getting that new Administration.......in 2016...Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 08:11:09 PM »

Good luck on getting that new Administration.......in 2016...


Your "positive attitude" is cute.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 08:15:30 PM »

Face the truth: You have to come up with a new name,someone who hasn't already tossed their name in the ring yet to run for President if ou want a chance at unseating Obama this time. Everyone running so far is a complete idiot. Nobody has a chance. Noone seems to be running away-or even close to a large consensus for the nomination. You guys know you have a clown car of idiots. Experts and commentaters and pundits and columnists all know it, and although you don't have the balls to admit it-you(silently to yourself) know it as well.....

Obama 2012, bitch
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 12:34:01 AM »

It is so wrong to prosecute people who do not have insurance when they cannot afford it according to Obamacare. Either you have nationalized health insurance or not, but you can't have it both ways. Self-employed and those who are unemployed should not be penalized under this system, and yet they are...I have never in my life seen more ways to try to squeeze blood from turnips while letting every other healthy corporate entity off the hook for taxes and otherwise. It is pathetic.  People have been taxed to death, literally. Obama needs to be addressing the real ills of theft of the US Treasury via the Federal Reserve and THEFT via corporate loopholes..not whether someone who makes 2000/mth is paying 500/mth in health insurance when his rent is 800-900 dollars a month and gas is 2/94 a gallon to get to work.
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