ron paul on gays in the military...no biggie...

[ivanm]

ac/dc bullshit?  what are you talking about?  i just told you i'm straight and only sleep with women.  i just don't care if men sleep with men or women sleep with women.

you're the one who is obsessed with gay sex.  are you sure all of the real women you went with were really women?  i'm past starting to wonder about you.  why would i care if a guy liked another guy UNLESS i liked one of the guys and that seems to be the case with you.

peace

A New Age loser like you just doesn't have the capicty to understand the underlying issue so why should I waste pearls on swine?

[ivanm]

ivanm....IMO it is none of any ones business what people of like sex do behind closed doors....the problem comes when they come out of the closet and flaunt it in our faces and pretend it is "Natural" or "Normal"..... ....thank God that humans were intelligent designed to be different than some species that can change their sex and procreate!   IMO, If they can't change their sex normally through intelligent design it wasn't meant to be...........

Apparently you haven't been in the service either.  Support your venerable doctor Paul on this one if you think that will get him elected but you are out of touch with traditional moral standards in this country.  The existence of queers in the service ranks is not an asset to the mission that is for damned sure.

The basic motives of the queers and of a fucking socialist pig like Obama is the fringe benefits of being in the service.  They can't get a good job in the private sector so they hide behind the government policy to do their dirt.  

Wise up libertarian.  You talk the talk so now you need to walk the walk. Those fucking people are parasites and don't you forget it.
You people are at odds with your own policies in that on one hand you shout limited government and on the other you ok the queers using government power and fiat to get what people with other mental conditions cannot get, special treatment.   The service is not a damned social experiment and the troops have been threatened to accept this sick policy.  I wish the straight people would tell Uncle Sam to hang his service where the sun doesn't shine.

The government needs to lend these little darlings to the enemy. The ragheads would have a ball or two, in their soup, before lopping the heads off of those freaks.

[dustup]

Apparently you haven't been in the service either.  Support your venerable doctor Paul on this one if you think that will get him elected but you are out of touch with traditional moral standards in this country.  The existence of queers in the service ranks is not an asset to the mission that is for damned sure.

I didn't say it was......

The basic motives of the queers and of a fucking socialist pig like Obama is the fringe benefits of being in the service.  They can't get a good job in the private sector so they hide behind the government policy to do their dirt.

They are everywhere!   

Wise up libertarian.  You talk the talk so now you need to walk the walk. Those fucking people are parasites and don't you forget it.
You people are at odds with your own policies in that on one hand you shout limited government and on the other you ok the queers using government power and fiat to get what people with other mental conditions cannot get, special treatment.   The service is not a damned social experiment and the troops have been threatened to accept this sick policy.  I wish the straight people would tell Uncle Sam to hang his service where the sun doesn't shine.

Like I have said here......I am not a Libertarian.....I am unaffiliated....independent.......but Libertarians allow for the rights of Gays as long as they keep to themselves and do no harm to another person.......if they want to burn in hell that's their decision.......also......Libertarians do not advocate homosexuals or anyone for that matter, using government power........like the it says in the Declaration of Independence....all men are created equal......its after they take their first breath and what they do from then on defines them.....

The government needs to lend these little darlings to the enemy. The ragheads would have a ball or two, in their soup, before lopping the heads off of those freaks.

You always demean Gay's.....I don't remember you taking a position on Lesbians

Personally I find gays reprehensible and obnoxious and the act of homosexuality is against the nature of God's plan and a stench in His nostrils......but so is lust and cursing.....the Word says.....1Th 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil."   

[ivanm]

I seldom distinguish between a homo male and a homo female.

You had mentioned that you did not care what freaks did behind closed doors.  In service they don't have the same privacy rights as in civlian  life, so anytime they fornicate in a military dorm they are subject to the UCMJ.  What is good for the straights is also good for the flakes.

[dustup]

I seldom distinguish between a homo male and a homo female.

You had mentioned that you did not care what freaks did behind closed doors.  In service they don't have the same privacy rights as in civlian  life, so anytime they fornicate in a military dorm they are subject to the UCMJ.  What is good for the straights is also good for the flakes.

Doesn't the military frown on heterosexual acts performed in the barracks as well The UCMJ doesn't say anything about married people having consensual sex....

920. ART. 120. RAPE AND CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(b) Any person subject to this chapter who, under circumstances not amounting to rape, commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife who has not attained the age of sixteen years, is guilty of carnal knowledge and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(c) Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete either of these offenses.

[ivanm]

Doesn't the military frown on heterosexual acts performed in the barracks as well The UCMJ doesn't say anything about married people having consensual sex....

Does two wrongs make a right?

  I realize that times have changed, but when I was stationed at SAC headquarters a bunch of lezzies paired off in a dorm.  Every one of them were sent packing with an admin. discharge.  

Paul has shit in his nest with this one as a lot of Americans won't vote for someone who condones perverts in the service.

[dustup]

Does two wrongs make a right?

  I realize that times have changed, but when I was stationed at SAC headquarters a bunch of lezzies paired off in a dorm.  Every one of them were sent packing with an admin. discharge.  

Paul has shit in his nest with this one as a lot of Americans won't vote for someone who condones perverts in the service.

Naw....I think he's a lot like me....don't ask don't tell......I really don't want to know! 

[ivanm]

Naw....I think he's a lot like me....don't ask don't tell......I really don't want to know! 

There is a weakness or down side in such a live and let live attitude.  We have enough division without standing idly by and letting everyone do their thing.

You seem to be confusing populism with anarchism.  Take your irresponsible outlook far enough and you have draft dodgers, people who will not obey traffic signs and laws, people who will not cooperate with civil authorities.  If you want to enjoy the benefits of a civilized life then there are prices you have to pay, limits to your behavior.

[dagon]

You seem to be confusing populism with anarchism.  Take your irresponsible outlook far enough and you have draft dodgers, people who will not obey traffic signs and laws, people who will not cooperate with civil authorities.  If you want to enjoy the benefits of a civilized life then there are prices you have to pay, limits to your behavior.

i know you sometimes get confused about what decade it is but didn't we get rid of the draft?

also haven't there always been people who will not obey traffic signs and laws and people who will not cooperate with civil authorities?

peace

[dustup]

There is a weakness or down side in such a live and let live attitude.  We have enough division without standing idly by and letting everyone do their thing.

You seem to be confusing populism with anarchism.  Take your irresponsible outlook far enough and you have draft dodgers, people who will not obey traffic signs and laws, people who will not cooperate with civil authorities.  If you want to enjoy the benefits of a civilized life then there are prices you have to pay, limits to your behavior.

We already have PC cops....I don't want moral cops roaming the streets looking to snipe someone for their thoughts.......I am an advocate of cooperating w9ith civil authority.....as long as they respect my rights and abide by the Law themselves.....in the 60's we had draft dodgers regardless of the Draft Laws in effect.....Canada offered them safe harbor....Some laws are morally wrong.....the draft was one of them....fighting for America should always be voluntary  privileged and not a LAW.......