we knew this was coming

[foodserver]

Yea, we knew this was coming indeed.    Let's see if and how Perry goes for this angle with the evangelical holier than thou voters (aka the GOP base).   My bet is he himself will take the high road while letting his surrogates go for the Mormonism is a cult line.  

Personally I think if Mormonism is a cult so is Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism,  Muslimism, etc, etc

That's how I see it to. I think Perry is in the "drowning man" stage of his campaign and so it won't amount to much.  Still, I think dagon is pretty close to right about this.  If Romney loses the nomination, this will probably be why.  What is funny is that, like so many other things about Romney, the Left will have no problem with this, once he has the nomination.  There will be two attacks on candidate Romney. 1)Not black. 2)Rich person who doesn't pretend to think rich people should give their money away.  The religious thing won't compute.

We didn't "deserve" to win last time around for this reason imo.  Fortunately, I think the country realizes it doesn't deserve for us NOT to win this time around...

[dagon]

That's how I see it to. I think Perry is in the "drowning man" stage of his campaign and so it won't amount to much.  Still, I think dagon is pretty close to right about this.  If Romney loses the nomination, this will probably be why.  What is funny is that, like so many other things about Romney, the Left will have no problem with this, once he has the nomination.  There will be two attacks on candidate Romney. 1)Not black. 2)Rich person who doesn't pretend to think rich people should give their money away.  The religious thing won't compute.

"not black" isn't even a consideration.  that's just some shit that popped in your head.  and they're all rich so that won't be a consideration.  the fact that romney has flipped on numerous issues as the wind blows will be a problem.  so will the fact that he made his fortune by FIRING people rather than creating jobs will be another.  and the fact that he touted romneycare as a panacea for the nation will be a big hindrance if he's trying to go after the president who essentially instituted romney's plan.

We didn't "deserve" to win last time around for this reason imo.  Fortunately, I think the country realizes it doesn't deserve for us NOT to win this time around...

based on what?  what are romney's policy solutions?  what's he going to do differently other than flash an "R" on his business card?  i'd like an answer.  you don't know romney's policy views;  no one does because he never states them.  i think you just like his chin and haircut.

peace

[johnhp]

"Everyone has their own little bag of rocks to carry."

She didn't mean for y'all to carry them in your heads.

[dustup]

"not black" isn't even a consideration.  that's just some shit that popped in your head.  and they're all rich so that won't be a consideration.  the fact that romney has flipped on numerous issues as the wind blows will be a problem.  so will the fact that he made his fortune by FIRING people rather than creating jobs will be another.  and the fact that he touted romneycare as a panacea for the nation will be a big hindrance if he's trying to go after the president who essentially instituted romney's plan.

based on what?  what are romney's policy solutions?  what's he going to do differently other than flash an "R" on his business card?  i'd like an answer.  you don't know romney's policy views;  no one does because he never states them.  i think you just like his chin and haircut.

peace

Mitt Romney on the Issues

VoteMatch Question & Answer
 Based on these stances:
 
Opposes topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's right
(-3 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 2:
Require hiring more women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale)

Opposes topic 3:
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits
(-3 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 4:
Teacher-led prayer in public schools
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 8:
Death Penalty
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 9:
Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws
(-5 points on Social scale)

Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-3 points on Economic scale)

Favors topic 5:
More federal funding for health coverage
(-3 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 7:
Parents choose schools via vouchers
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 18:
Replace coal & oil with alternatives
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 19:
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
(-5 points on Social scale)

Favors topic 20:
Allow churches to provide welfare services
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 11:
Make taxes more progressive
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Opposes topic 12:
Illegal immigrants earn citizenship
(-3 points on Social scale)

Favors topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 15:
Expand the armed forces
(-5 points on Social scale)

Opposes topic 16:
Stricter limits on political campaign funds
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 14:
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 17:
US out of Iraq & Afghanistan
(-5 points on Social scale)

[dagon]

Mitt Romney on the Issues

VoteMatch Question & Answer
 Based on these stances:
 
Opposes topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's right
(-3 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 2:
Require hiring more women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale)

Opposes topic 3:
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits
(-3 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 4:
Teacher-led prayer in public schools
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 8:
Death Penalty
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Favors topic 9:
Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws
(-5 points on Social scale)

Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-3 points on Economic scale)

Favors topic 5:
More federal funding for health coverage
(-3 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 7:
Parents choose schools via vouchers
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 18:
Replace coal & oil with alternatives
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 19:
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
(-5 points on Social scale)

Favors topic 20:
Allow churches to provide welfare services
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 11:
Make taxes more progressive
(+5 points on Economic scale)

Opposes topic 12:
Illegal immigrants earn citizenship
(-3 points on Social scale)

Favors topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Favors topic 15:
Expand the armed forces
(-5 points on Social scale)

Opposes topic 16:
Stricter limits on political campaign funds
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 14:
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties
(-5 points on Social scale)

Strongly Opposes topic 17:
US out of Iraq & Afghanistan
(-5 points on Social scale)

this is what i mean.  romney is ON THE RECORD of recently having views that contradict his current stances:

this is but ONE example:

WhichMitt.com: Mitt Romney flip-flops on Roe v. Wade

see what i mean?  he's gonna be toast.

peace

[SufferedMoreThanJesus]

Well, at least it's not "above his pay grade" to comment on it, huh?

[dagon]

Well, at least it's not "above his pay grade" to comment on it, huh?

meaning what?

peace

[foodserver]

"not black" isn't even a consideration.  that's just some shit that popped in your head.  and they're all rich so that won't be a consideration.  the fact that romney has flipped on numerous issues as the wind blows will be a problem.  so will the fact that he made his fortune by FIRING people rather than creating jobs will be another.  and the fact that he touted romneycare as a panacea for the nation will be a big hindrance if he's trying to go after the president who essentially instituted romney's plan.

based on what?  what are romney's policy solutions?  what's he going to do differently other than flash an "R" on his business card?  i'd like an answer.  you don't know romney's policy views;  no one does because he never states them.  i think you just like his chin and haircut.

peace

"not black" isn't even a consideration.  that's just some shit that popped in your head.

You're a liar.  To your credit, you're not particularly good at it.

[foodserver]

romney is ON THE RECORD of recently having views that contradict his current stances:

this is but ONE example:

WhichMitt.com: Mitt Romney flip-flops on Roe v. Wade   


see what i mean?  he's gonna be toast.


   No offense but the above might have a little more gravitas if I didn't know it was coming from someone who thought it was politically strategic to nominate Ron Paul...

[dagon]

romney is ON THE RECORD of recently having views that contradict his current
   No offense but the above might have a little more gravitas if I didn't know it was coming from someone who thought it was politically strategic to nominate Ron Paul...

huh?  who thought it was politically strategic to nominate ron paul?  what are you talking about?

peace

[dustup]

romney is ON THE RECORD of recently having views that contradict his current stances:

this is but ONE example:

WhichMitt.com: Mitt Romney flip-flops on Roe v. Wade   


see what i mean?  he's gonna be toast.


   No offense but the above might have a little more gravitas if I didn't know it was coming from someone who thought it was politically strategic to nominate Ron Paul...

who dat....say dat ....dagon say dat

[johnhp]

   No offense but the above might have a little more gravitas if I didn't know it was coming from someone who thought it was politically strategic to nominate Ron Paul...

Because facts on the ground change depending upon who presents them?

[foodserver]

huh?  who thought it was politically strategic to nominate ron paul?  what are you talking about?

peace

Woops!  For some reason I thought this was Dustup's post.  (dustup and) I thank you for this correction. 

[IM2]

Foodserver,

Obama is not the first black perons to try running for president. So then his being black was not a positve factor in him getting elected.  You seem to think that being black has advantages.  I'll tell you what white boy, go buy yoursefl enough tan in a can that  you won't wash it off when you take a shower and put enough on your body so you will look like a black man. Then go buy yourself an afro wig, and then live for about 6-8 monnths.

After that, you'll shut up with the white boy excuse for failure that its easy being black because we are given so much.