Protestantism explained

[Mornac]

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[ivanm]

Your wonder boy Voris is out in left field on this issue.  To think  that protestants won't go to Heaven unless they convert to Catholic is the height of conceit and idiocy. What is the matter Mornac, are the church coffers low from defending the pedofiles in the priesthood and you idiots now want more ante from converts to help pick up the slack?  This is the first I have ever heard of a Catholic wanting to invite protestants into their midsts.
 
Are you really that fucking dense?  Go read  the bible for a change and wipe your ass on your precious liturgy. Maybe you will learn something about Chrisitanity. It is not for just bigots like you, but for everybody.  Even the apostles differed in their views of a few items.  If you want to  be a professional bigot then there are a few sects that you might shine in as they are the real thing, genuine head peckers.

I think you are trolling, and in so doing you are making a real ass out of yourself.

[Mornac]

Your wonder boy Voris is out in left field on this issue.

--How so?

To think  that protestants won't go to Heaven unless they convert to Catholic is the height of conceit and idiocy.

--It certainly is, and if you can show me a point where Voris says that in the video, then I will never post another Vortex video on the Newsrake forum. Conversely, if you fail to do so, I’ll thank you to withdraw the above implication. No apology will be necessary. (Don’t pass up this opportunity ivan. I’m sure that there are others here that would love to see you succeed.)

What is the matter Mornac, are the church coffers low from defending the pedofiles in the priesthood and you idiots now want more ante from converts to help pick up the slack?

--The Church coffers are definitely depleted from the payouts to victims of the Novus ordo pedophile scandal as well as the legal costs associated with the defence of perverts by the Novus ordo Lavender Mafia. However, that is not the impetus for wanting converts. The Church has ALWAYS desired out of charity that the fallen away heresies return to the fold. This is nothing new. We’ve been at it since the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople brought the Arians back in from heresy in the 4th century.

This is the first I have ever heard of a Catholic wanting to invite protestants into their midsts.

--The video is not aimed at Protestants. It is aimed at Catholics who have become ashamed of proclaiming that what they believe in is the truth to the detriment of falsehoods taught in Protestant sects.
 

Are you really that fucking dense?

--On the contrary, I’m rather enlightened on the subject. Were I not, I would not come here in full readiness to defend the things which I believe in the face of those who don’t believe it, yet refuse to refute it with logic. I’m quite comfortable with my ability to reason any and all of it to any detractors. 

Go read  the bible for a change and wipe your ass on your precious liturgy.

--That’s what got Protestants into the mess they’re in today.

Maybe you will learn something about Chrisitanity.

--I know everything I need to about Christianity. Whenever I have questions, I go right to the source and get the answer.

It is not for just bigots like you, but for everybody.

--The Apostles established that at the Council of Jerusalem in 50 AD. I’m happy to see that Protestants haven’t tossed that teaching out yet.

Even the apostles differed in their views of a few items.

--Hence the convening of the aforementioned Council at Jerusalem wherein they first exercised their Christ-given authority to teach revealed truth. Pity that heretics in the following centuries would denounce that authority and strike out on their own, making up their own “truth” according to their relativistic whims.

If you want to  be a professional bigot then there are a few sects that you might shine in as they are the real thing, genuine head peckers.

--I have no desire to be a professional bigot.

I think you are trolling, and in so doing you are making a real ass out of yourself.

--I took your advice and read the Bible. I found this nugget from St. Paul:

For I think that God hath set forth us apostles, the last, as it were men appointed to death: we are made a spectacle to the world, and to angels, and to men. We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are honourable, but we without honour.

[ivanm]

I know everything I need to about Christianity. Whenever I have questions, I go right to the source and get the answer.

Then go to the uvarnished truth.  You are a very devoted and loyal Catholic but you would profit by learning to think for yourself rather than being content to having it handed to you.

What you fail to see is that your message falls on deaf ears if the reader is not Catholic, and so you miss an opportunity to spread the Gospel if you cannot or will not speak in more pedestrian terms.

[Mornac]

I take it this means that you couldn't find Voris saying that "protestants won't go to Heaven unless they convert to Catholic".

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[ivanm]

A couple comments on the preceding videos.  

Some of the Protestant sects are very narrow minded and bigoted, but not all.  I grew up as a Methodist, which is now called the United Methodist Church after a merge with the EUB (Evangelical United Brethren, which is basically a Canaidan group)sect a few decades back.  Methodism is a service oriented group where people like the Southern Baptists and the Church of Christ are very doctrine oriented. So there is a little something for lots of people depending on where their interests lie.

Methodists prefer to walk the walk where Baptists like to talk the talk. I was married in a small Southern Baptist church after going with my fiancee for several weeks to that snake pit, and  I hated every minute of the disgusting order of worship. Those people were so set in their ways that they would not accept me as a Christian unless I joined their funny farm.  Needless to say, I disappointed them.

This guy from the big Dallas church is typical of the clout the fundies have on southern culture, and if you were to grow up in that world you might not know anything but the kool aid that they pump out every Sunday morning.  They are especially good at preying on the ignorant and the financially desperate people and I  think that is an underhanded and cheap way to spread the Gospel.  

Just wanted you to know that not all Protestants are out to get the Catholics and that not all Protestants are as ignorant and bigoted as the silly bastard from Dallas. Most Protestants I know like to make fun of the Catholic religious rituals but on the other hand most Protestants like the Catholics they meet.
 
I drink coffee with  a Catholic guy and I know other Catholic people who I regard as friends.  The nice thing about these people is that they don't wear their beliefs on their shoulders and they seldom bring up religious issues.  None I know are as evangelical as you are, and if I met one who was a bigot I would surely avoid his or her company.

Why, because I am not bashful about telling them what I think about their idiotic beliefs, as you may have guessed by now, and I value their friendship.

I think I had already mentioned a couple where one is Catholic and the lady is from a fundie Methodist sect (Yes, there are also bigoted Methodists.). I am just waiting for that old gal to try and convert the Catholic as that is the mission of a head pecker, to convert all to their way of believing.  The other day I just about unloaded on a group of those mental midgets, but what is the use, it won't change a thing, and it just ruins friendships.  

Wouldn't it be nice if we all ganged up on the Catholic guy, who is named John by the way?  I think he is a nice man and there is more to our friendship than bigoted religious beliefs.  In fact, when he and I happen to be alone in the coffee shop we sometimes talk about his Catholic customs and beliefs.  Like you, he has been fed that stuff all his life and doesn't think outside the box.  He even admits that he doesn't understand the entire Mass after all these years.

[ivanm]

Two Front War

Why is it a struggle?  Why not live and let live?

Something tells me it is a struggle between the traditional Catholics and the rest of the Christian community.

Look at it this way Mornac, religious intolerance is a primary factor in the war on terror, the war against Islamic extremism, so aren't we being hypocritical if we fight amongst ourselves as Christians?