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Author Topic: Crossing the moral Rubicon, the downward spiral in America  (Read 1103 times)
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« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2011, 03:29:41 PM »

I didn't say anything about what you needed. That would be more of an undertaking than I would care to take on.

Coit....here's an idea.....don't take it on  Grin
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« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2011, 05:36:46 PM »

Nothing has "always" been anything. However in the terms you're grasping for here there have been periods of time that were every bit as "slutty" or more.

These trends are cyclical and actually when the "sluttiness" is not overt it simply goes underground. So you're fooling yourself here. 
The current cycle as you call it is right at 50 plus years old and hasn't reached the nadir yet.  It is obvious that you are too young to remember how it was back before the sexual liberation after WW II. Tell me Methuselah, when will things turn back up? You are the knower of all things, so that should be easy for you, a piece of cake.
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2011, 07:47:57 AM »

John....I don't know John....it was so perniciously subtle....slow, very, very slow.....like a pot of water on the stove slowly, very slowly going from cold to boiling hot!.....actually any discussion with you is wasted.....sense you already know everything....you are a legend in your own mind.....John  Grin

i am not asking for a specific date, just a period of time.  Limit it to a decade.
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« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2011, 01:56:01 PM »

i am not asking for a specific date, just a period of time.  Limit it to a decade.


1960's through present.....

Perhaps more than anything else, America's cultural decline is evidence of a shift in the public's attitudes and beliefs. Social scientist James Q. Wilson writes that ``the powers exercised by the institutions of social control have been constrained and people, especially young people, have embraced an ethos that values self-expression over self-control.'' The findings of pollster David Yankelovich seem to confirm this diagnosis. Our society now places less value than before on what we owe to others as a matter of moral obligation; less value on sacrifice as a moral good; less values on social conformity and respectability; and less value on correctness and restraint in matters of physical pleasure and sexuality.
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« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2011, 03:01:04 PM »


You should have asked Joan first as she is the authority on all things of importance.   Roll Eyes  Some young people are amazingly intelligent and perceptive in spite of their youth, but the word fairy missed that part of her development.

The best part of her ran down her mother's leg.
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