Marco....Rubio....Marco....Rubio.....

[foodserver]

we're talking about this conservative.  if you're trying to make the case that there are no honest conservatives,  then have at it.

peace

Trying to be cute is John's thing.  I've asked you a direct question.  List the honest conservatives belonging to a religious denomination you approve of.

We both know your answer(zero)but being honest is not particularly supportive if your immediate interests and so you will not answer the question.

(Which is YOUR thing... )

[Coit]

Don't feel bad.  John doesn't know any "honest" conservatives either.

That was kinda my point...

Feel bad about what?

Do you have some kind of processing disorder, or what? I clearly stated that I was starting with you. I did not tell you that I don't know any honest conservatives. I was talking about you and only you, and I was pointing out to you that you admitted to being willfully ignorant. I was further pointing out to you that I regard willful ignorance as being dishonest. On top of that I was noting that you followed up your admission to your willful ignorance by proudly declaring yourself to be honest because you admit to your willful ignorance.

You have denied none of that. Yes, it's delusional on your part but that was kinda my point...

[ivanm]

Let's face, Marco Rubio is a little dishonest.  Maybe i am being to kind to him here.  Let's compare 2 of his statements.


But this is what he said in May.....


and the kicker....



So, he wants to weaken America?  And, i suppose an equally interesting question is why he hated his father enough not to care for him in the way baggers like Rubio claim used to care for ill family members?

Do we know that he could afford to help his father? 

[foodserver]

OK, so you're refusing to answer my question.  You will do this many more times as long as you participate on this site, so to save us all some time,

please be a man and just say so.  Save the fluff for Richard Simmons.

[dagon]

Trying to be cute is John's thing.  I've asked you a direct question.  List the honest conservatives belonging to a religious denomination you approve of.

WHAT?  what the hell does that have to do with anything?  

We both know your answer(zero)but being honest is not particularly supportive if your immediate interests and so you will not answer the question.

dude,  you're having a rough day.  we're talking about rubio and entitlements.  

where does the number of conservatives i believe are honest fit into THIS conversation
where does the number of conservatives belonging to a religious denomiation i approve on fit into this conversation?

why can't you just deal the topic at hand rather than masturbate all of the time?  it's not getting under anyone's skin if that is your intent.  it's just....sad man!

but i'll answer your question.  i don't support the religion of ANY politician as i am an atheist.  the politicians i support don't push their religion and govern on policy;  as far as i know rubio doesn't go around proselytizing about religion so i don't know why you would even bring that into this conversation;  other than to screw around.

and there are bunch of conservatives that i would consider to be consistently honest in their beliefs; even if i don't share their beliefs.

do you want to stop fucking around and get back on the topic of rubio's conflicting statements?  if not,  i'll just respond to people who want to talk about the issue at hand.

peace

[Coit]

OK, so you're refusing to answer my question.

Please be a man and just say so.  Save the fluff for Richard Simmons.

Do you think you're talking to me?

If I were to answer that question I would have to break it down further. What kind of conservative are you referring to? Are you referring to the Tea Party, because if you are there is current information that suggests that what they really are is the same old social conservatives and since they're going around representing that they're something new and different I could not say that a single one of them is honest at all. In fact they're being dishonest because they already know that they can't sell their agenda any other way.

And further I would have to distrust anyone who is claiming they're any kind of fiscal conservative unless they're too young to have voted for Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. The current crop of people who act as though the debt is something very hot and painful, searing away their livers, are really saying that they will do anything at all regardless of the veracity to destroy Barack Obama. What's honest about that?

I guess the best ones that I know of are David Brooks and David Frum who identify themselves as conservatives, but would you regard them as conservatives?  

[dagon]

Do we know that he could afford to help his father? 

i don't know why that would matter.  all he said was that medicare was invaluable to his father and his family and enabled his father to die with dignity in his latter days.

i'm sure any son would do everything in his power to help a dying father so i guess we can extrapolate from there.

peace

[johnhp]

John says,

Let's face, Marco Rubio is a little dishonest.

Please list all of the "honest" conservatives you know. 

Begin with you?  But again, if you have nothing to add, feel free to fuck off.

[johnhp]

you tell me?  i just think he's dishonest.  why don't you give me your opinion on how his recent statements aren't contradictory to what he has said before?

some analysis on your point would be welcome.

peace

i laughed very hard at the prospect of that.

[Coit]

it's not getting under anyone's skin if that is your intent.  

Oh yeah. That's his intent exactly but not just anyone's skin. He thinks he's bagging liberals.

[johnhp]

In  regards to the old days when families took care of their own needs, a lot of people were either self employed as farmers and merchants or were wives that did not work outside the home.  As industry grew the people became increasingly dependent on their jobs to pay for such bennies, and a payroll tax is an equitable way to fund the programs IMO. Yes, the employer must pay a like share of the taxes for the employees, but it is a deductible business expense.  One must also realize that a self employed person can only deduct a lesser share of the expense from his business income.

If we want to weaken America then we need to throw the labor force to the wolves in this regard.  Apparently the clown doesn't work for a living and was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Either that or he is missing a few screws.

 I am a moderately conservative person but I get a little pissed when people try to fuck over the labor force.  Maybe that is why they like cheap labor from foreign sweat shops, no bennies to pay.  Maybe it is tiime the American workers need to come down on jerks like him like flies on shit.

Nice to see you taking a tea bagger to task.  But i thought you believed these people were about the little guy.

[johnhp]

Do we know that he could afford to help his father? 

What does it matter?  He claims that people back in the day did it regardless.  the fact that he could not shows exactly how much he hated his father.

[johnhp]

Notice how Foodserver would do anything other than discuss the content of Rubio's statements.

[foodserver]

coit sputters,

If I were to answer that question I would have to break it down further.

  You didn't need to break down shit when you were slandering. 

Now when exposed for the "uber-partisanship" you so condescendingly accuse me of, now you've got to "break it down."

Cue the dance music...

[Coit]

coit sputters,

If I were to answer that question I would have to break it down further.

  You didn't need to break down shit when you were slandering. 

Now when exposed for the "uber-partisanship" you so condescendingly accuse me of, now you've got to "break it down."

Cue the dance music...

It's fine with me if you wish to lump yourself with every single pus ball that identifies itself as conservative. I suppose you have no choice anyway but to wallow in your own bullshit, but nothing compels me to wallow there with you.

So it's okay with you if I lump you with neo-Nazis and Klansmen?