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Author Topic: Michael Voris, Mornac's major source, has a major scandal brewing  (Read 747 times)
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« on: August 18, 2011, 08:30:42 AM »



Michael Voris may be in a little trouble.  i am not talking about the church not allowing him at World Youth Day....or the Diocese of Scranton not allowing him to speak at official events.  No, i am referring to two problems, one salacious, one possibly legal, that will firther marginalize that boob.


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Voris, President and CEO of Real Catholic TV, was equally surprised by evidence showing that his staff apologist and program host Simon Rafe – who is the webmaster at St. Michael's Media, and co-authored its “Saint Michael's Basic Training” apologetics course – had also written the “adult” role-playing game “Castle Dracula,” and fan-fiction depicting homosexuality in the Star Wars universe.



Okay.  So, this guys who is massively homophobic does what?  PRODUCE fan fiction depicting homosexuality and pornographic role playing games.  Of course, no one would really care if they were not tarring others for what one of the main members of their site do.


And by main guy, Simon Rafe is one of the more important people in Voris' organization...here is a quote from Rafe's game

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“If you would like strength and vitality, turn to 70. If you would like health and life, turn to 383. If you would like true love, turn to 467. If you would like sex appeal, turn to 203. If you would like sexual potency, turn to 366. If you would like make love to the goddess (even if you are female - Asrel is an equal-opportunity lover!), turn to 11.”




But the more important issue is this:

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Voris told CNA on August 16 that he had “no idea” his nonprofit corporation St. Michael's Media had been automatically dissolved in 2009 after failing to file records with the state for two years. An official at the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs confirmed on August 10 that Voris' nonprofit was “no longer registered and in good standing with the State of Michigan.”

As of August 16, St. Michael's Media's website stated: “We are a 501(c)3 company & donations are tax-deductible.” An earlier test donation, made through the website via PayPal, showed that the officially defunct entity was still receiving contributions.



http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/realcatholictvs-voris-had-no-idea-about-internal-problems/


The CEO did not know his organization had been dissolved 2 years ago.

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 12:50:52 PM »



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Apology & Explanation

I write this as a private individual expressing contrition for things I did which were wrong to have done.

I write this blog post as a private individual speaking about actions I took as a private individual. I do NOT speak for any organization or as part of any organization, nor do I speak about anything which involves any organization. I speak - personally (these words are my own) - about things I did personally. I do not direct these words at anyone specifically - I offer an apology and acceptance of responsiblity, and in the second half of this post I address and explain some issues raised by the CNA article.

I have done wrong. I admit my wrongdoing. I have confessed my sins to Jesus Christ in confession. I humbly ask you to pray for me and, if you are able to do so, forgive me for the hurt I have caused you and the faith I love dearly.

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http://proverbs-27-17.blogspot.com/2011/08/explanation.html
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Q. Mornac, do you have any demonstrative proof that your god exists?
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Q. Mornac, why do you think 98% of Catholics are acting contrary to Catholic teaching?
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Q. What about you, Mornac? Have you ever acted contrary to Catholic teaching and used contraception?
A. While I was a Catholic, the answer is no.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 01:13:33 PM »


I have done wrong. I admit my wrongdoing. I have confessed my sins to Jesus Christ in confession. I humbly ask you to pray for me and, if you are able to do so, forgive me for the hurt I have caused you and the faith I love dearly.




Only after he was caught.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 01:24:51 PM »

Only after he was caught.
Of course ... "Forgive me Father for I have been found out."
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A. Yes, but only if yes means the same as no.

Q. Mornac, why do you think 98% of Catholics are acting contrary to Catholic teaching?
A. Crickets

Q. What about you, Mornac? Have you ever acted contrary to Catholic teaching and used contraception?
A. While I was a Catholic, the answer is no.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 04:03:09 PM »

Where ya at Mornac?
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 04:23:40 PM »

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i think notoc's answer could apply to Mornac as well:

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Of course ... "Forgive me Father for I have been found out."

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 05:09:28 PM »

Where ya at Mornac?
He's busy praying that Mr Voris gets something spinnable out and online as quickly as possible.
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Q. Mornac, why do you think 98% of Catholics are acting contrary to Catholic teaching?
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Q. What about you, Mornac? Have you ever acted contrary to Catholic teaching and used contraception?
A. While I was a Catholic, the answer is no.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 05:15:48 PM »

Oh there you are notoc. I had a question for you over here.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 05:51:31 PM »

He's busy praying that Mr Voris gets something spinnable out and online as quickly as possible.

He's busy trying to spin his earlier story as if he were telling the truth.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 06:20:44 PM »

Pretty much a non-issue.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 06:39:08 PM »

Pretty much a non-issue.
Unless people start finding out their donations aren't tax-deductible.
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Q. Mornac, do you have any demonstrative proof that your god exists?
A. Yes, but only if yes means the same as no.

Q. Mornac, why do you think 98% of Catholics are acting contrary to Catholic teaching?
A. Crickets

Q. What about you, Mornac? Have you ever acted contrary to Catholic teaching and used contraception?
A. While I was a Catholic, the answer is no.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 07:06:41 PM »

Pretty much a non-issue.

So that whole individual responsibility thing is just a non-issue for you?
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 10:57:01 AM »

Real Catholic TV's Official Response to Catholic News Agency Article

Sunday, August 21, 2011

Video: http://www.realcatholictv.com/response/

Michael Voris says:

Hello Everyone.

From over here in Madrid in the midst of World Youth Day coverage .. we unfortunately have to issue this response to an article that was published by Catholic News Agency last week.

There are really two different stories here so we will address them separately.

First .. the official status of St. Michael’s Media as a 501(c) 3. The article called into question our official standing as a non-profit with the State of Michigan. It reported that according to the state .. St. Michael’s Media is not in good standing. That is true.

What the article did not make clear is that this is the case because St. Michael’s Media has not filed the annual reports that were supposed to be filed. That is entirely my fault. I have oversight to do that. I did not do that. The reason is simply because I did not know that had to be done.

Again totally my fault.

When St. Michael’s Media was established back in 2006 .. we had a short term helper who was handling all the paperwork issues with the state. When that worker left .. I did a poor job and allowed things to get sloppy. We are now in the process of getting our records up to date and will file the appropriate back records.

The State of Michigan website that addresses these sorts of issues clearly states that when the paperwork is corrected .. the company is re-established in good standing as though nothing had gone wrong. There is a small $5 fine to have to pay for each back annual report and we will of course pay that along with filing the reports and bringing St. Michael’s Media up to speed.

Again .. totally my fault and I accept the responsibility. I am working to fix the situation which was caused by me, and I will have it all done in as short a time as possible.

Secondly .. regarding the issue of Simon Rafe and his online writings in question, which he has since taken down. I spoke with Simon at some length on a couple of occasions here from Madrid when this was first brought to my attention.

He was immediately forthright and admitted they were his and that they were very inappropriate. He said he should not have written and published them. He expressed his great sorrow. He has in fact issued a very specific apology on the web on his own with no prompting from anyone.

In speaking with Simon, I have no doubt whatsoever about the sincerity of his apology nor his realization that what he did was wrong both personally and professionally.

He has already taken steps to address the personal aspects of this. Professionally .. the owners of the website domain realcatholictv.com have determined that for the foreseeable future, Simon’s duties will be curtailed to only those that involve technical and administrative duties. He will not be hosting any new productions. This is also true with regard to any functions he performs for St. Michael’s Media.

Now with regard to some background points on the article itself and some interesting points NOT addressed.

First .. what was NOT stated is that the 501 (c) 3 status of St. Michael’s Media is in no way compromised.

501c3 is a designation awarded by the US federal government, the IRS .. NOT the state of Michigan.

There are two things at play here. The status of the business in state of Michigan and secondly the 501c3 status awarded by the IRS.

While I let the state side of the paperwork go, the IRS paper work is up to date and the 501c3 status has never been a question.

And furthermore .. with regard to not filling out paperwork with the state .. or being behind .. there is now information on various blogs which make the claim that Catholic News Agency or its affiliate is 4 years behind on its own filings.

We are not reporting this because .. frankly .. we don’t care. Businesses fall behind on paperwork for hundreds of reasons everyday. We don’t think its an issue. It doesn’t have anything to do with the salvation of souls – so again, we don’t care.

I have communicated to management at CNA that I think it was unfair to publish the story when they did. The reporter called me here in Madrid Spain during a very hectic time of production for us .. sprung a series of questions on me of which I was incapable of answering at that moment .... agreed with me that I needed time to get to the bottom of things .. and then published an article.

We think that was unfair and portrayed us in a bad light.

During my conversations with the Catholic News Agency it has been revealed to us that they get all kinds of secret anonymous stories about either me or our work .. all trying to depict me or our work in a very bad light. The same is true with this story .. it came through an anonymous source.

The owners of the website realcatholictv dot com are aware that because of some of what we talk about in various programs .. we have developed enemies in the Church.

Sad as that it .. it is the reality. If the person who knew about these problems did not come to us first privately as a brother in Christ to point them out .. but went instead as an anonymous source to the Catholic media .. to gin up an air of suspicion about the efforts of St. Michael’s Media as well as the website realcatholictv.com .. then perhaps CNA should be investigating THAT instead.

Anyone who has spent anytime in the world of Church politics knows that there are some people who can be absolutely immoral in the way that they deal with others. Jealousies .. turf wars ..

financial fights .. personality clashes .. lies .. vicious personal attacks .. thanks to original sin and personal sin .. all of these unfortunately mar the Body of Christ.

We are very aware that there are many people in the Church who have it out for us. We aren’t playing victim .. merely stating the reality that we confront almost daily and has now been confirmed for us by the Catholic News Agency.

In that respect we are not unlike many other groups on the web who are also maligned .. often by members of the clergy in Canada for example, who smear good and faithful Catholics with terms like “Taliban Catholics.”

We have it on good information that this is what was behind the issuance of a press release on the part of the WYD committee and USCCB that realcatholictv dot com had not been “APPROVED”. Of course nowhere in that press release was it mentioned that being APPROVED is not necessary. That was a smoke screen charge to make us look bad.

Nowhere did it mention that there are dozens of other groups that are here in Madrid who are also NOT APPROVED. They were active in passing out loads of flyers and information promoting their own events and causes. We even collected a few of them as they were handed to us. Here they are.

In one marvelous example of what OFFICIALLY APPROVED means or doesn’t mean .. a fantastic young pro-life group from Ireland that had received no official approval had a high ranking prelate publically address them.

In the mayhem and chaos of World Youth Day .. official approval means absolutely next to nothing on the ground. We find the Press Release issuance singling us out beyond ridiculous.

We spoke to around a thousand young people at our two No Bull in Madrid talks that were fabulously received. You can check them out for yourselves right on line. We’ve included the links. We even had a notable archbishop sit in on of them.

So bottom line .. yes I failed to file the paperwork for the state of Michigan as I should have. Now that the owners are aware of Simon’s very inappropriate writings .. the necessary steps have been taken to assure our integrity as well as helping Simon .. a dual duty we feel we have.

Nonetheless .. we are grateful that this has come to light so that we could address them. We consider this constant stream of anonymous charges as despicable and highly uncharitable.

Not filing paperwork in a timely fashion hardly constitutes a headline during world youth day.

Even prominent bloggers who would not count themselves as supporters of ours, share this opinion.

If the genesis behind this anonymous source .. which we heavily suspect .. is someone with an axe to grind about reports we have done on lack of leadership .. or watered down catechesis or the questionable financial and theological positions of the Social Justice club inside the Church .. or any of a hundred other problems which need to be addressed and not ignored or covered up .. if the goal is to intimidate or malign us .. then thank you for finally showing your fangs. At least now .. many others can see what we have seen for some time now.

We sincerely wish all these people .. and we are NOT talking about the Catholic News Agency ..

who consider themselves our enemies .. who constantly blather on about charity and tolerance and dialog would follow their own advice.

If they have a problem with us .. and again .. we’re aren’t talking about the CAN .. they should confront us like a man .. not some sniveling school girls who resort to tattle tales and smear campaigns.

We pray for unity in the Church. But unity cannot come at the sacrifice of the truth.

GOD Bless you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 11:00:39 AM »

Voris admits not filing.  Good for him.  Now, how much of a fine will he have to pay for accepting donations as a 501 until now?
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 01:12:15 PM »

In the event there are any liberals here with their attendant liberal reading deficiencies:

"The State of Michigan website that addresses these sorts of issues clearly states that when the paperwork is corrected .. the company is re-established in good standing as though nothing had gone wrong. There is a small $5 fine to have to pay for each back annual report and we will of course pay that along with filing the reports and bringing St. Michael’s Media up to speed."

I’m pretty sure Voris will pay the five bucks.  He’s already shown himself to be far more forthcoming and willing to accept responsibility than his Novus ordo bishops are.
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