Obama Thinks We'll Be Out Of Afghanistan By The End Of This Year

[IM2]

dust up,

If I called you a cracker, honky, hymie, peckerwood, I am an antisemite, mick, dago, guinea or wop, you would be all up in arms. So then I say what i say to ivan because he seems to forget why I am giving him the treatment he is getting and he rambles on about my being a racist. He should never have called me a coon, and I think that you have no say on how I handle it.

OBTW some of this stuff you post I did not say.

Example: Re: What specifically does Obama want to do? by Velleity
...  God he wised up and moved away or some coon would have robbed and killed him just  ...
   6.5%    ivanm    March 24, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
      Make me laugh some more, please…
in General Discussion


Re: For those who care to learn by IM2
...  the limelight, which is typical of a coon, so he lips off. What a maladjusted  ...
...  easy with you if you had called him a coon?



And these are two of many. So if you are going to say something about me, be accurate.

Observer,

That is actually far more egregious than "Coon" and it is relatively mild compared to some of the things you have called me.

Actually it is not. Coon is a blatant racist term. MF is not. And I think you need to check yourself before you go off whining about what you have been have been called by me, you start shit and then when you get slapped back you whine like a grape being pressed in france.

It's funny how whites like you always want to downplay obvious racism but will make nothing into racism when things are directed at you. Had I called ivan any of he words I described to dust up, you would be the first demanding that I be banned. There would be no "that is actually far more egregious than such and such" statement being made by you if that was the  case. This is why I curse you, you hypocrite son of a bitch.

It is all part of the modern scheme called white victimization.

Google Tim Wise and find out what that means. OBTW Tim Wise is a white man.

[Observer]

IM, you are the quintessential professional victim.

That is really pretty pathetic.

[makesenseplease]

MSP

You made the assertion the first time you said that were were in year 9 of GW Bush.

Now pass the j.

Here's the thread and a challenge to you and your posse.

Show me the assertion or wear Boffo's avatar.  It's about time you had a new avatar anyway.


http://www.newsrake.org/index.php/topic,1823.msg63399.html#msg63399


C'mom.  Put up or shut up.

[johnhp]

Here's the thread and a challenge to you and your posse.

Show me the assertion or wear Boffo's avatar.  It's about time you had a new avatar anyway.


http://www.newsrake.org/index.php/topic,1823.msg63399.html#msg63399


C'mom.  Put up or shut up.

It is the subject you gave the thread.  Do you often give a thread subject headings you do not believe?

[makesenseplease]

It is the subject you gave the thread.  Do you often give a thread subject headings you do not believe?

Want to carry IM2's water?

Show me the assertion or wear Boffo's avatar.

Put up or shut up

[johnhp]

Want to carry IM2's water?

Show me the assertion or wear Boffo's avatar.

Put up or shut up

i am not carrying anyone's water.  i just mentioned that YOU gave the thread the SUBJECT Bush's Ninth Year.  If you were not promoting that idea you were being untruthful.  Now which is it, were you being untruthful in your description of the topic or was that your assertion?

[IM2]

Observer,

It's sad that grown man in his mid 50's cannot even hold an original thought. You use Rush Limbaughs words, and Rush has been shown to be a stupid ass full of psychobabble. You think what Rush says has validity therefore you are an aging fool repeating psychobabble.

Because I am not the one whining about how the governent is mistreating me when its not. Every word I have in regards to race relations in this country has historical documentation supporting them.. My opinions are based upon that same historical data. You cannot deny that your so called founders were slave owners. That is a fact jack. So then instead of respondiing like a man, you turn to chilldish retorts like they mean something.

You are a fucking joke son, and the sad part is that you're not even a funny joke.

Finally, YOU were the one crying about things I have said to you that you claim was worse than ivnan using a racial slur. YOU are the one whining about my supposed racism. I simply tell you the truth in return. If I had used one of hte words I described to dust up, your bitch ass would be demanding my removal.

That's another fact supported by documented evidence. And I do believe that damn near everyone here with the exception of your girlfriend ivan, and your pen pal foodserver wouuld agree with me on that.

[Observer]

Observer,

It's sad that grown man in his mid 50's cannot even hold an original thought. You use Rush Limbaughs words, and Rush has been shown to be a stupid ass full of psychobabble. You think what Rush says has validity therefore you are an aging fool repeating psychobabble.

I haven't heard Limbaugh in years.

Try another lie.

You cannot deny that your so called founders were slave owners.

SOME of them were... so what?

[IM2]

Observer,

The fact you can say that you have not heard LImbaugh in years means you did listen to Limbaugh at one point in time.

Some persons, especially the extreme right-wing Republicans preach that we must go back to the ways of the "Founding Fathers." In particular, they want judges to ignore 220 years of progress and history. They desire to turn the calendar back to the politics of 1787.

For conservatives, the myth is that somehow the Founding Fathers were giants, better than we are today, smarter, more able, more clever. Above all, the conservatives argue that the Founding Fathers were more "moral" than you or me. They were like the Olympian heroes of ancient mythology, at least according to our conservative brethren. But conservatives are always looking backwards and not seeing very clearly. They have problems coping with present realities.

The conservatives want us to accede to those mythical heroes. We are expected to abandon our own good sense and trust the Founding Fathers' judgment over our own.

Of course, most rational persons realize that such political mythology is sheer nonsense, but it begs the question, who were the Founding Fathers and what makes them so great that they're wiser than you are?

The term "Founding Fathers" is somewhat vague. My dictionary says that it didn't even come into use until about 1914. It was applied to the members of the Constitutional Convention of 1787. Our Constitution or what remains of it after 27 of the most serious blunders have been corrected by amendments, rests on the philosophy, genius, morality and ethics of the rather small committee which concocted it. We must look to those Founding Fathers to see what kinds of guys they were that we should surrender our good sense to theirs.



http://www.prisoners.com/mythff.html

Read the rest before you respond because you want everyone to continue following men like :

Abraham Baldwin
1754-1807 Georgia Born in Connecticut, religious fanatic, chaplain in Revolutionary army, wealthy, teacher at Yale, lawyer in Georgia, large slave owner, killed several, politician, representative and senator.

Gunning Bedford (Junor)
1747-1812 Delaware Born in Philadelphia, unbalanced, manic, wealthy, lawyer, US district judge.

William Blount
1749-1800 North Carolina Born in North Carolina, greedy, crook, one of the founders of Tennessee, owned slaves, expelled from the Senate, involved in real estate swingles.

John Blair
1732-1800 Virgina Born in Virginia of a wealthy, prominent family, one of the older delegates, owned and used many slaves, had black mistress, a drinking buddy of George Washington, he made him one of the first Supreme Court justices, he did nothing.

Pierce Butler
1744-1822 South Carolina Born in Ireland, illegal alien, officer in British Army, trader, married rich woman, wealthy planter, owned a great many slaves, instrumental in Constitution's fugitive slave language, senator.

William Few
1748-1828 Georgia Born in Maryland, grew up in North Carolina, moved to Georgia and later New York City where he was inspector of prisons and became an important banker, a vagabond, slave owner and breeder, US circuit judge, grafter.

Benjamin Franklin
1706-1790 Pennsylvania Born in Boston, oldest delegate, genius, womanizer, father of several bastards including a governor of New Jersey, rapist, sex with 15 year-old child, wealthy businessman and printer/publisher, inventor, spent 1/3 of his life in Europe

Nathaniel Gorhman
1758-1796 Mass-
achusetts Born in Massachusetts, businessman, merchant, wealthy, President of the Continental Congress, land speculator and swindler, with partner bought six million acres in Western New York, over 9300 square miles, 17% of the state.

Alexander Hamilton
1755?-1804 New York Bastard born to a penniless slut on Nevis, West Indies, illegal alien, criminal, married money, daughter of General Philip Schuyler, captain in the Revolution, profiteer, pompous, involved in finance, killed by Aaron Burr (1757-1836) in an illegal duel.

Daniel of Saint Thomas Jenifer
1723-1790 Maryland Born in Maryland, an old and wealthy land owner and slave owner.

Rufus King
1755-1827 Mass-
achusetts Born in what is now Maine, was then Massachusetts, pro British, minister to Britain, lawyer, politician, anti-slavery, preferred indentured servants, leader in forming Constitution, move to New York, senator, upper class snob.

James Madison, Jr.
1751-1836 Virginia Born in Virginia of a wealthy and powerful family, widely believed to be homosexual, "Father of the Constutution," slave breeder, importer and owner of many slaves, scholarly, articulate, wealthy land owner and land speculator in Kentucky, representative, secretary of state, fourth president of the United states.

Robert Morris
1734-1806 Pennsylvania Born in England, businessman, importer, merchant, primary financier of the Revolution, signed Declaration of Independence and Articles of Confederation, financial manipulator, fiddled with government finances to favor the wealthy and land owners, speculator, went bankrupt.

George Washington
1732-1799 Virginia Born in Virginia, surveyor, military officer, blundering general, brewer, drunk, married money, suspected of homosexuality, slave owner, pompous, great accomplishment: getting his picture on the $1 bill.

How about this:

  Most of the Founding Fathers disapproved of giving ordinary citizens such liberties as freedom of religion, freedom from unreasonable search and torture, the right of free speech and so forth. In fact, when John Adams (1735-1826) was president (1797-1801), he took away freedom of speech.

The fact that the importation of slaves was protected until 1808 when it could have been erased by written declaration and that it took an amendment to the constitution to end slavery should make you shut the hell up. But of course you are the not responsible type who wants everyone else to be responsible.

When you can take the responsibility you demand of others, maybe you'll get a little respect. Arrogance without responsiblity is nothing son, and thats what makes you a nothing, no count, little insignificant bodyguard. You see, Observer, taking responsibility means you do not make excuses for obvious wrongs done now, in the past, or whenever they are done. Your "some of them owned slaves" comment is a cover up. If 1 owned a slave it was wrong, and it destroys everything you and many others claim this naiton was supposedly founded upon.

Because this is not about whether or not I was ever  a slave, the prot4ection of slavery is about a major flaw in the document that you use for a bible. This alone renders any arugument you make pertaining to the constitution and the role of government moot and meritless.

There are laws that supercede this man made document boy, you need to learn them.

[johnhp]

I haven't heard Limbaugh in years.

Dishonorable Discharge,

He is the Rock of Gibralter for bullshit; you needn't have heard him for years to parrot him.

[makesenseplease]

i am not carrying anyone's water.  i just mentioned that YOU gave the thread the SUBJECT Bush's Ninth Year.  If you were not promoting that idea you were being untruthful.  Now which is it, were you being untruthful in your description of the topic or was that your assertion?

You'll find your new avatar here:

http://somosrepublicans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/george-bush-miss-me-yet.jpg

Wear it with pride

[johnhp]

You'll find your new avatar here:

http://somosrepublicans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/george-bush-miss-me-yet.jpg

Wear it with pride

You are just not all that swuft.  Yes, swuft.

[ivanm]

You'll find your new avatar here:

http://somosrepublicans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/george-bush-miss-me-yet.jpg

Wear it with pride

Hee. Hee.

I used to be able to pull in some real nasty cartoons to use against the pinkos but I have lost track of the source.   

[Mornac]

“As I said, we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of this year”

--Ten days left Hawk boy. Good luck.

[makesenseplease]

--Ten days left Hawk boy. Good luck.

ONLY IN HIS DREAMS :'(

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