the Afghanistan poll

[johnhp]

You apparently don't get it.

No, i get it.  You do not know how to criticize people for political and social policy without being a racist.  Also bloaming the victims of the Holocaust for the Holocaust is really just obnoxious.

[johnhp]

REALLY john??

Yes, Holly.  Really.

Then just what do you suppose you would call what Israel does to Palestinian's and Arabs?? What would you call that??

i view Israel as something like a colonial state and an occupying power that immorally oppressed Palestinians.  i am not certain that the aggression of the Israelis is necessarily based on race or ethnicity, however.  But that does not make the occupation legitimate or moral.  That being said, the immorality of the nation of Israel is no justification of racism for those of us who support the establishment of a Palestinian state.  i am sorry you cannot understand that.

Israel pours out it's hatred on Palestinian's everyday. Why is that not ugly in your little mind?

You jump to conclusions on all sorts of people don't you?

[johnhp]

OK, we have hashed and rehashed the Palestinian thing. There is no excuse for the anti semitism presented by Ivan.

Or Holly's anti-semitism and bizarre need to attribute to others political positions they do not hold.