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Author Topic: Bullshit Bumpersticker Jingoistic Mentality Of Racist Righties On Parade  (Read 2612 times)
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« on: August 25, 2010, 01:12:05 PM »

I was behind someone in traffic today who had a license plate that had the National Guard designation on it. They also had a bumper sticker with an American flag on it that said “Defend America/Fight Obama”. This typifies the average white racist confederate redneck military type that lives down here in Dumbfuckistan/Redneckistan. Never mind that our President was born and raised in America and has the birth certificate to prove it. Never mind that he graduated from the Harvard Law School and is a Constitutional Scholar, and is a Christian and belonged to Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Never mind that he was a United States Senator.  None of this matters to these brainstems because he is black and has a weird name he must be muslim in these idiots minds. They never think about the fact that it was wrong to dissent against the last president, but ok now. If Obama was such a bad fascist communist whatever-ist type, idiots like this national guard asshole should be court martialed for their attitude about him-that is if he’s really a threat that needs defeated and that they need to speak out and “fight” against. But instead, asshats like these are allowed to freely parade their bullshit bumperstickers wherever they like even though they serve under this supposedly bad awful president they feel the need to “fight”. What kind of bullshit is that?

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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 01:16:02 PM »

It is called the First Amendment.

Do you have problem with that?
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 01:19:23 PM »

No problem whatsoever w/ 1st amendment, but I thought it was wrong for military to oppose or speak out publicly against the president they serve. Wasn't there something about that? Weren't soldiers getting in trouble for that during Bush?
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 01:27:02 PM »

It is called the Hatch Act and it prohibits federal employees from engaging in certain types of political activities.

Exercising his First Amendment rights by displaying a bumper sticker on his privately owned vehicle is not among them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 01:30:53 PM »

What evidence do you have that this soldier is a racist?

Your hysterical rants and accusations of racism toward anyone who opposes Obama indicate a severely disordered mind.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 02:02:11 PM »

I figure if folks on the right like Orly Taitz can try to make a case for Obama having to prove that he’s an American even though he already has and is, and others on the right can call him a Muslim even though he’s clearly not, it opens the door for me to call any white person who opposes our President a racist….until they solidly prove otherwise. So when did you stop beating your wife Observer? See how it works? Ok when the right plays that kind of tactic on our president, but not ok when we do the same back to anti presidential unpatriotic racist white rednecks? Give me a break….

 All it would take is a short conversation w/ the National Guard bigot w/ the bumper sticker to qualify that he’s a racist. I’ve hardly met a white person down here in the deep south who, when they not only oppose but outwardly hate this President then after that it doesn’t take long before they are hurling the n word. You can do your usual and claim it doesn’t happen but I have seen it first hand too many times, and even get emails from white and right wing so called “friends” with the same tone and words…

 The real severe disorder taking place is in people who think that "fighting Obama" is equal to "defending America". That is codified and shrouded ethnic,religious racist,biogotry at it's worst. As far as I'm concerned it's not up to me to prove it's true. It's up to the accused to prove it's not.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 02:04:01 PM »

No problem whatsoever w/ 1st amendment, but I thought it was wrong for military to oppose or speak out publicly against the president they serve. Wasn't there something about that? Weren't soldiers getting in trouble for that during Bush?

Was he in uniform?
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 02:10:37 PM »

Not in uniform but the vehicle he was driving had state of florida national guard plates
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 02:44:55 PM »

Then it is likely not a violation of the law, just shit for brains.  As you can tell from Observer that is not uncommon on the right.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 03:23:33 PM »

Was he in uniform?

It still would not be a violation.

Stay out of things you do not understand.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 03:26:20 PM »

It still would not be a violation.

Stay out of things you do not understand.

Like the way you "stay out of" economic issues?
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 03:30:54 PM »

Like the way you should stay out of Constitutional issues.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 04:17:37 PM »

It still would not be a violation.

Stay out of things you do not understand.


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Further Restricted federal employees may not –
use official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election;

knowingly solicit, accept, or receive a political contri¬bution from any person (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations);
be a candidate for nomination or election to a partisan political office;

knowingly solicit or discourage the participation in any political activity of anyone who has business pending before their employing agency; or

engage in political activity, while

on duty;

in a government office;

wearing an official uniform; or

using a government vehicle.

http://www.osc.gov/haFederalFurtherRestrisctionandActivities.htm




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The Hatch Act prohibits Less Restricted employees from:
using their official authority or influence to interfere with or affect the result of an election;

knowingly soliciting, accepting, or receiving a political contribution from any person (this may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations);

knowingly soliciting or discouraging the participation in any political activity of anyone who has business pending before their employing agency;

being candidates for public office in partisan political elections; or

engaging in political activity while:

on duty;

in a government office;

wearing an official uniform; or

using a government vehicle

http://www.osc.gov/haFederalLessRestrisctionandActivities.htm




That covers the only two types of federal employees covered by Hatch.  No engaging in political activity while wearing an official uniform.  Seems pretty cut and dry.  Does that cover a bumper sticker?  Maybe/maybe not.  but, as the law states, in uniform political activity is prohibited by all federal employees.  Dumbass.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 05:11:32 PM »

If he were to attach loudspeakers to the outside of his vehicle and drive down the road in uniform campaigning against Obama, he stands a chance of being charged with a violation of Article 92 of the UCMJ, and possibly, depending on the way he expressed his dissent, a violation of Article 88.

Driving his personal conveyance in uniform, even with an anti-Obama bumpersticker on it is not a violation of the Hatch Act or any article of the UCMJ.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 05:30:36 PM »

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What evidence do you have that this soldier is a racist?

Its rather obvious dumb ass.

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Your hysterical rants and accusations of racism toward anyone who opposes Obama indicate a severely disordered mind.

This is a white guy who has to sit and listen to the racism spewed forth by other whites. At least he is honest about it unlike your punk ass who denies it exists, but will be the first to rant about anyone of color who opposes the racism we have had to endure. You are the one with a disordered mind, sellout boy.

This person represents one of the millions of whites who are sick and tired of bitch made racist pukes. These bitch made racist pukes are the ones you defend day after day. Then when you get called on it, you decide that you are now an indian. Thats because you are not man enough to stand up to wrong. So then don't make comments when others do so.

Finally sorry bastard, where was your first amendment defense when people were opposing the real wrongs done by Bush? They did not exist then, so don't create them now. Your double standard lifestyle cannot be accepted. You don't get to use the constituton only when it suits your need and your idoelogy. You are in your mid fifties and your logic is like that of a retarded child. Grow the hell up.
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