Obama's faith

[Mornac]

Answer: who gives a damn.    It's ironic that these same conservative types who claim the Constitution is so important to them would spend so much time dwelling on this topic.

United States Constitution Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

--Who said anything about a religious test? Some of us just feel it’s important to be informed about the philosophy of the people we elect. It’s a sad situation when there are those around who are shallow enough to vote for someone solely on the basis of how far he will manipulate the Constitution for them.

[Mornac]

Mornac says he doesn't believe that Obama is a Muslim,

--He's a relativist. He doesn't have enough self confidence to proclaim a faith.

but he posted a video asking if Obama is a Muslim?

--A question is not the same thing as an answer.

I didn't bother watching the video, nor will I.  I just saw the title asking the question, and that was enough to disgust me.

--A question disgusts you? If you go through life disgusted by questions to the point where you don't allow yourself to hear the answers then you're going to be stuck with liberalism for the duration. Not a pleasant thought.

[SpaceCadet]

--He's a relativist. He doesn't have enough self confidence to proclaim a faith.
--A question disgusts you? If you go through life disgusted by questions to the point where you don't allow yourself to hear the answers then you're going to be stuck with liberalism for the duration. Not a pleasant thought.

I had imagined that you might have been on a little higher plane than this, but I guess it was my turn to be wrong.

[Mornac]

For the record: Do you agree with me or do you think Obama is a Muslim?

[Pepsi]

--He's a relativist. He doesn't have enough self confidence to proclaim a faith.

Reeeeaaaallllly?   so he hasn't said he is a Christian how many times now?

Yeah, so his father was a Muslim  - GET OVER IT

[IM2]

Who said anything about a religious test? Some of us just feel it’s important to be informed about the philosophy of the people we elect. It’s a sad situation when there are those around who are shallow enough to vote for someone solely on the basis of how far he will manipulate the Constitution for them.

BS. Obama's faith is well known. After all it was you conservatives who spent so much time riding Obama because he spent 20 years attending a  christian church pastored by Jeremiah Wright. If that doesn't tell you he is a christian then it doesn't matter.

What this is, is the result of hatemongering radio show hosts making claims that arenot true. But since they are race baiting, enough people oppose this president only because of his color and that's enough for them to believe anything negative about President Barack Obama.

This is one way in which white racism manifests itself. Since none of you but Dagon is or has ever been black, don't tell me this is not so.

[SpaceCadet]

For the record: Do you agree with me or do you think Obama is a Muslim?

As I said, I'm not going to dignify it by discussing it, except to express my disgust with the entire subject.  I don't care if he's Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, Scientologist, Seventh-day Adventist, Hare Krishna, Christian Scientist, Atheist, or... even Catholic.  Whatever the case, I'd prefer that he keep it mostly to himself, which fortunately he is doing.

That will be my last comment on this subject.

Next...!

[Mornac]

Reeeeaaaallllly?   so he hasn't said he is a Christian how many times now?

--Ignoring for the moment the inanity of asking someone how many times someone hasn’t said something, Obama’s variety of Christianity is nothing more than a relativist salad sprinkled with a handful of crosses.

Yeah, so his father was a Muslim

--Whereas that may be of some importance to you, it means nothing to me. As far as I know his father never ran for any office that represents me in any way.

- GET OVER IT

--I was never not over it.

[Mornac]

As I said, I'm not going to dignify it by discussing it, except to express my disgust with the entire subject.  I don't care if he's Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, Scientologist, Seventh-day Adventist, Hare Krishna, Christian Scientist, Atheist, or... even Catholic.  Whatever the case, I'd prefer that he keep it mostly to himself, which fortunately he is doing.

--It never ceases to amaze me that there are voters in this country who don’t give a damn about the personal moral philosophies of those whom they elect to represent them. Why isn’t this apathy extended to the way they think about economics?

That will be my last comment on this subject.

--Okay by me.

Next...!

--You name it.

[Pepsi]

--It never ceases to amaze me that there are voters in this country who don’t give a damn about the personal moral philosophies of those whom they elect to represent them. Why isn’t this apathy extended to the way they think about economics?

personal moral philosophies manifest themselves in the policies they promote and positions they take.   that is what we elect them for.

[Mornac]

personal moral philosophies manifest themselves in the policies they promote and positions they take.

--Exactly!

that is what we elect them for.

--So you now agree that it is important to know what they are so that you make an appropriate choice.

[johnhp]

It seems Mornac raised these issues on another thread from which he has fled.  Why does Mornac run away so often when he claims to answer every question put to him?

http://www.newsrake.org/index.php/topic,3159.0.html

[Velleity]

Why does Mornac run away so often when he claims to answer every question put to him?

What does the notion that you can plug the idea of "God" into every unknown do to one's intellect?

It certainly doesn't encourage humility and it certainly doesn't seem to promote empathy, given what we see of those to subscribe to this notion.

IM certainly seems to have a excellent grasp of humility and empathy, and he seems to me to be pretty hard core in his religious beliefs. So it follows that the lack of empathy and humility among certain people who use religion is not universal. Rather this lack of humility and empathy is prevalent among certain sects and it seems to fill some kind of need.

I find this odd because the limited information I have on Christ suggests that he was all about things like humility and empathy. Why would a religion that purports to follow the teachings of Christ edit out things like humility and empathy? Why would a religion like this go even further and rationalize their lack of humility and empathy, even suggesting that the giving of humility and empathy somehow harms the recipient?

[Observer]

IM certainly seems to have a excellent grasp of humility and empathy...

[Velleity]

Nice "argument".

You understand, don't you, that this would be my response exactly if someone suggested that you possessed an ounce of humility and empathy.