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« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2010, 05:00:57 PM »

I do not have to look for racism

All you have to do to find it is stop at a mirror.

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Well the tea bagger who made the poster thought it was an African tribal member

How do you know? Did you ask him?
 
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« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2010, 05:21:48 PM »

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All you have to do to find it is stop at a mirror.

Yep, cause I'd be looking at you bitch.

So again, show me what have said that is racist. OOPS, you can't. What you will keep doing is making the claim because you are not man enough to accept the truth you ahvebeen shown. JC is man enough, vel isman enough, JOhn isman neough, hellthere might be a conservative somewhere who is man enough. But is not you. You sit down to pee.

You're not at NOPC anymore pussy. There is no Beanz to support your stupidity with his own brand of dumb ass. Here when you make an accusation, you must support your accusation by showing evidence.

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How do you know? Did you ask him?

Don't have to ask. After 49 years of seeing such shit,  I KNOW what the point of the poster was.
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« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2010, 07:32:19 PM »

Yep, cause I'd be looking at your bitch.

Yep, that's what you see every time you look in a mirror.   Cool

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« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2010, 07:34:57 PM »

OBserver,

Like breitbart you edited and made up some shit that was not said.

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Yep, cause I'd be looking at you bitch.

Thats what I said. And you have again shown yourself to be a liar.
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« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2010, 07:37:09 PM »


I do believe you are lying again, John. However, that happens so frequently most people don't even notice it anymore.


You have me confused with yourself.  If you think i am being untruthful feel free to demonstrate it rather than falsely claim it.





Since you brought it up though, DO you know the intent of the person who created that image?


No and i could not give an observer less.  The intent of the person who made the image is meaningless.  It depicts Mr. Obama in a manner that has historically been used to demean persons of color in our nation.    





I always find it funny when Leftist idiots like you display their own racial prejudices by posting that image and screaming "Racism!!". You are seeing in it what you wish to see in it... what you yourself see when you look at Obama.


Blah, blah, blah.  This is a cute attempt at a reshove, but the fact remains that historically images like this were used to denigrate people of color in our nation.  





The truth is,


As if you got anywhere near the truth.





that image has nothing to do with Africa or Blacks.


Who claimed that it did?  What an utterly ridiculous claim on your part that in order for an image to demean people it must be from their ethnic heritage.  You are amazingly funny when you suggest that the people who produce racial literature must be urbane.




It is an image of a South Sea Island medicine man. I don't recall specicially whether the guy in the original is Polynesian, Micronesian, or Melanesian, but he definitely is NOT African. It is your own prejudice that made you fill in the gaps and see that.


Explain why the image used must be of an African to be racist.
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« Reply #140 on: August 14, 2010, 07:42:10 PM »

And you have again shown yourself to be a liar.

What I said was true.
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« Reply #141 on: August 14, 2010, 07:45:10 PM »

You have me confused with yourself.  If you think i am being untruthful feel free to demonstrate it rather than falsely claim it.

Here we go again... You made allegation, Dumbass. It is up to you to substantiate it.

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No and i could not give an observer less.  The intent of the person who made the image is meaningless.  It depicts Mr. Obama in a manner that has historically been used to demean persons of color in our nation.

Show me other examples of that image being used to "demean persons of color" in our nation.   

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Blah, blah, blah.  This is a cute attempt at a reshove, but the fact remains that historically images like this were used to denigrate people of color in our nation.

You are obsessed with the whole "color" thing.

Sad. 




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« Reply #142 on: August 14, 2010, 08:02:27 PM »


Here we go again... You made allegation,


i did not make an allegation, i wrote that you were full of shit.  That is an ontological statement about what it means to be "Observer" (percipi est esse rather than the usual esse est percipi).




It is up to you to substantiate it.


i do when i make statements of fact rather than statements of observation about being.  Nevertheless, this did have me chuckling a bit given that you do anything other that substantiate every claim on which you are challenged.  You're what they called in Logan's Run a runner.






Show me other examples of that image being used to "demean persons of color" in our nation.   


You are ridiculous if you want to claim that the depiction of persons of color in tribal garb is not racist.



You are obsessed with the whole "color" thing.

Sad. 


You are obsessed with defending racism.  But notice what you specifically hid from: the question directed specifically at your claim about racism.  Go ahead and step up and explain why you think a specifically African image must be used to count as racist.



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« Reply #143 on: August 14, 2010, 08:22:22 PM »


You are ridiculous if you want to claim that the depiction of persons of color in tribal garb is not racist.


Really, these guys would probably disagree with you.



And what is it with this "persons of color" bullshit? are you so afraid that someone like IM, who is obviously ashamed of his heritage and therefore has to feign outrage every time it is mentioned, that you have to tiptoe around and use ridiculous little phrases like "persons of color"?

You are laughable.
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« Reply #144 on: August 15, 2010, 08:13:13 AM »

Different situation all together.  In this photo you have people representing their traditional heritage. 


Yes, persons of color.  Because there are many people of diverse ethnic backgrounds.


Go fuck yourself.
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« Reply #145 on: August 15, 2010, 03:24:15 PM »

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What I said was true.

No its not. You saying its so does not make it so. You can't show any evidence that makes it true. I can show evidence that supports what I say. You only scream and  whine about racism because you are not man enough to take the truth. This is only your opinon, and your opinon has no validity.

It's fine for bitches like you to tell me how terrible and wrong blacks are all the time, but when its time for white men to stand accountable for their shit, we get the whining and crying that you do all the time from conservatives.

The word white is not racist. For over 300 years whites like you have made certain to explain to the rest of us how you were superior because you are WHITE.  It was not racist then, and its not racist now.  Your kind did, and continues using the word white to proclaim your superiority to everyone else. So then the term white is not racist, and your whining about me using the term is not going to stop me from doing so crybaby. Nor is it racist to explain how whites today have benefitted from the past you claim that you have nothing to do with. It's documented historical fact. So its now time for you to man up. I know that's difficult for you, but thats what time it is. If you can't, move the fuck to another country.

So show me what I have said that is racist or shut your mouth up about it. The poster that depicted Obama in that manner was done with racist intent. I know it, and so do you. You rmaking excuses for the obvious only shows that you are fucked up.



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« Reply #146 on: August 15, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »

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And what is it with this "persons of color" bullshit? are you so afraid that someone like IM, who is obviously ashamed of his heritage and therefore has to feign outrage every time it is mentioned, that you have to tiptoe around and use ridiculous little phrases like "persons of color"?

Why would I be ashamed of my heritage? I am not the one who is indian one day and white the next. Yet everyting you say sides with the type of whites who killed millions of your ANCESTORS AND STOLE THE LAND FROM THEM. I have been black and have proudly stated my heritage since I got in these places.

Seems to me that you are the one ashamed of at least one half of your heritage. Because pussy, I am part Cherokee myself, and part creole, from my parents and you do not hear or read of me making excuses for every manner of fucked up shit the white man did just because I direct an organzation and make a little money now.

You are a punk assed sellout boy.

You see fuckhead, it is a proud tradition within the black community to fight the wrongs that whites like you continue doing. It is in that traditon that I blast your racist ass routinely here and others like you wherever I go.

None of your childish attempts changes the fact that the white person who made that poster was a fucking racist, and that poster was done with racist intent and depicted Obama in a negative manner because of his race only. It did not take any deep search to see what the intent was for that poster.   And you know it, so end making excuses.

Finally what that poster represents is  how white racism just turns up for us. We don't have to look for it, it just shows up, just like that poster showed up and the tea bag rally, and the texas guy showed up  with a sign using the n word.  No one  goes looking for white racism, it just comes out and slaps you right in the face.

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« Reply #147 on: August 15, 2010, 08:58:17 PM »

The Cherokee expelled the descendants of the Freedmen form the Cherokee Nation a few years ago. Unless you have a direct lineage ancestor on the Dawes Roll, you are not "part Cherokee". You might want to check on that.

For your information, Buttwheat, I have never been the least bit amiguous about my heritage, nor have I claimed to be something one day and something else the next. Of course, you knew that. You just don't have a problem lying your little punk ass off whenever it suits you.
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« Reply #148 on: August 16, 2010, 08:06:01 AM »


I have never been the least bit amiguous about my heritage


Who knew douche bag was a "heritage"?
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« Reply #149 on: August 16, 2010, 09:08:31 AM »

Really, these guys would probably disagree with you.



And what is it with this "persons of color" bullshit? are you so afraid that someone like IM, who is obviously ashamed of his heritage and therefore has to feign outrage every time it is mentioned, that you have to tiptoe around and use ridiculous little phrases like "persons of color"?

You are laughable.


Thank you for the input about your Indian friends.  At least they have enough common sense and pride in their heritage to not invite more criticism by making an issue of their race. 
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