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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2010, 02:29:33 PM »

You're still thinking he's the anti-Christ and that you're the Messiah?

He thinks people have forgotten how he was punked out the last time.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 02:41:11 PM »

You mean like the one that demonstrates judgement is a proper spelling or the one that lists plot as a synonym of plan?  Those would be the OED and Roget's, respectively.

It has become common practice among lexicographers to take common spelling errors and list them as alternate spellings. This is done for two reasons... the people who consitently make those errors are generally too stupid to ever correct themselves, and in this day and age, it is not politically correct anymore to point out the failings of others.

The society is being dumbed down to accomodate people like you.

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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 02:44:57 PM »

It has become common practice among lexicographers to take common spelling errors and list them as alternate spellings. This is done for two reasons... the people who consitently make those errors are generally too stupid to ever correct themselves, and in this day and age, it is not politically correct anymore to point out the failings of others.

The society is being dumbed down to accomodate people like you.



Look at you thinking you know what you are talking about.  Prove your claim.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 02:50:36 PM »

Disprove it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 04:06:03 PM »

Disprove it.


There you go wanting other people to prove your work.  But, for a moment, let's go with your supposition that lexicographers take misspellings and list them as alternate spellings because, as you claim, "the people who consitently make those errors are generally too stupid to ever correct themselves".

Loathe as i am to point this out, the OED lists "judgment" as the alternative spelling for "judgement".  That would make you someone too stupid to correct yourself.


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Forms: 3-5 iuggement, 3-6 iugement, (3 gugement, 4 iuiement, iugumen, 5 iugemente, iewge-, iugis-, yuge-, iugment), 6-7 iudge-, iudgment, (-e), 7- judge-, judgment.

    1. a. The action of trying a cause in a court of justice; trial. (Now rare or merged in 3.) Also applied to trial by battle (quot. 1377: see BATTLE n. 2) or ordeal (Judgement of God).

1297 R. GLOUC. (Rolls) 1236 To bringe is neueu mid strenge to stonde to Iugement. 1377 LANGL. P. Pl. B. XVI. 95 anne shulde Ihesus iuste ere-fore bi iuggement of armes, Whether shulde [fonge] e fruit, e fende or hymselue. 1390 GOWER Conf. III. 340 Unto the town this he besoghte, To don him riht in juggement. c1470 HENRY Wallace II. 248 To..bryng him wp out of that vgly sell To iugisment. a1548 HALL Chron., Edw. V 6b, They all foure were beheaded without iudgement. 1596 SHAKES. Merch. V. IV. i. 223 A Daniel come to iudgement, yea a Daniel. 1617 MORYSON Itin. III. 270 The Canton of Bern hath three Courts of Judgement. 1652 NEEDHAM tr. Selden's Mare Cl. 5 This caus could not by any pretens bee brought into judgment. 1672 COWELL Interpr., Judicium Dei, the Judgment of God, so our ancestors call'd those now prohibited Tryals of Ordeal, and its several kinds.
    b. Phr. to sit in judgement:    (a) lit. to sit as judge, to preside as a judge at a trial;    (b) fig. to pass judgement upon (see 6), to judge, criticize (with an assumption of superiority).

c1440 Gesta Rom. I. vii. 18 (Harl. MS.) Whanne the Iuge was come down..for to sitte in iugement, he sawe is sit. a1548 HALL Chron., Hen. VI 161 The kyng hymself came into Kent, and there sat in iudgement upon the offendors. 1824 SCOTT Redgauntlet Let. v, We shall all of us have enough to do, without sitting in judgment upon other folks.
    2. The trial of moral beings by God (or Christ) as Judge; spec. (in full, the Last Judgement), the final trial of the subjects of God's moral government at the end of the world: = DOOM n. 6. Often in day of judgement: = DOOMSDAY.

1340 HAMPOLE Pr. Consc. 2802 an sal ai come til e last iugement. 1382 WYCLIF Matt. x. 15 It shall be more suffreable to the lond of men of Sodom and Gomor in the day of iugement than to that citee. [Cf. xi. 22, in the day of dome.] c1450 tr. De Imitatione I. iii. 4 Derke inges, for e whiche we shul not be blamed in e iuggement. c1511 1st Eng. Bk. Amer. (Arb.) Introd. 33/1 Of this people shalbe no iugement at the dredefull day of dome. 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 188 The valley of Cedron..where the generall Iudgement shall be, if the Iews..may be beleeved. 1794 SULLIVAN View Nat. I. 39 The saints and spirits of the blessed shall take possession of it, and there remain till the general judgment. 1855 MILMAN Lat. Chr. IV. i. (1864) II. 173 In the Resurrection and Day of Judgement.
    3. a. The sentence of a court of justice; a judicial decision or order in court.

c1290 S. Eng. Leg. I. 98/205 Is is a guod Ivggement? a1300 Cursor M. 6776 (Cott.) ou sal it quit wit iuiement [v.r. iuggement]. c1450 Cov. Myst. xxv. 249 A wondyr case..On wiche we must gyf iewgement. a1548 HALL Chron., Hen. VIII 244b, He confessed the Inditement, and so had Iudgement to bee hanged. 1560 BIBLE (Genev.) 1 Kings iii. 28 All Israel heard ye iudgement, which the King had iudged. 1647-8 SIR C. COTTERELL Davila's Hist. Fr. (1678) 5 If he caused judgment to be given in favour of his mother. a1718 PENN Tracts Wks. 1726 I. 501 Judgment is the Determination and Result of Law. 1818 CRUISE Digest (ed. 2) VI. 342 Judgment that the daughters of Richard and Mathew took only estates for life. 1856 FROUDE Hist. Eng. (1858) I. ii. 160 She appealed from the judgment of the legates to that of the pope.
    b. Law. (ellipt.) An assignment of chattels or chattel-interests made by judgement or decree of court; the certificate of such judgement as a security or form of property. Cf. judgement-debt in 13.
  ‘A Judgment, in consequence of some suit or action in a court of justice, is frequently the means of vesting the right and property of chattel interests in the prevailing party’ (Blackstone Comm. (1767) II. 436).

1677 A. YARRANTON Eng. Improv. 36 Bonds given to the King, although..never Recorded in the Exchequer, nor in any Court else; yet these Bonds are a Judgment in Law, and by virtue thereof will be first served. a1718 PENN Maxims Wks. 1726 I. 845 As Judgments are paid before Bonds, and Bonds before Bills or Book-debts. 1745 De Foe's Eng. Tradesman i. 6 A judgment in goods, taken in early, is never lost. 1858 LD. ST. LEONARDS Handy Bk. Prop. Law xxi. 167 Upon a marriage, a mother assigned an unregistered judgment to a trustee for her daughter for life.
    4. Divine sentence or decision; spec. a misfortune or calamity regarded as a divine visitation or punishment, or as a token of divine displeasure.

a1300 Cursor M. 1591 (Gött.) In form of iugement a neu vengans on aim god sent. c1380 WYCLIF Sel. Wks. III. 444 If he discorde from juggement of his God. 1470-85 MALORY Arthur IV. xxiii, That is the ryghtwys Iugement of god sayd the damoysel. 1560 BIBLE (Genev.) Ezek. xiv. 21 When I send my foure sore iudgements vpon Ierusalem. 1613 SHAKES. Hen. VIII, II, iv. 194 Hence I tooke a thought, This was a Iudgement on me. 1703 Lond. Gaz. No. 3899/1 An Anniversary Thanksgiving..for our Deliverance from the Terrours of that dreadful Judgment [earthquake]. 1797 MRS. RADCLIFFE Italian xxii. (1824) 648 Some people said it was a judgement on him. 1816 J. WILSON City of Plague II. iii. 301 My sins have brought this judgment on the city.
    5. a. Any formal or authoritative decision, as of an umpire or arbiter. (Now rare.)

c1330 R. BRUNNE Chron. (1810) 303 To whils at oure trewe duellis on jugement. c1386 CHAUCER Prol. 833 Who so be rebel to my Iuggement Shal paye for al at by the wey is spent. c1450 Guy Warw. (C.) 672 And all ey seyde wyth oon assente: We graunt wele to yowre yugement. 1560 J. DAUS tr. Sleidane's Comm. 14, I will confourme my wyll vnto your iudgemente. 1602 SHAKES. Ham. V. ii. 291. 1619 SANDERSON Serm. Rom. xiv. 3. §3 This third Verse: wherein is contained..Saint Pauls judgement; or his counsell rather, and aduice. 1878 BROWNING La Saisiaz 292 The show of things unfurled For thy summing-up and judgement.
    b. Astrol. A decision or conclusion as to a future event, deduced from the positions of the heavenly bodies: cf. judicial astrology. Obs.

1390 GOWER Conf. III. 2 He can al the lawe deme, And yiven every juggement Which longeth to the firmament. Ibid. 107 [Astrology] The which in juggementz acompteth Theffect, what every sterre amonteth.
    6. The pronouncing of a deliberate opinion upon a person or thing, or the opinion pronounced; criticism; censure.

a1225 Ancr. R. 118 eo hwule et te heorte walle wiinnen of uree, nis er no riht dom, ne no riht gugement. 1340-70 Alex. & Dind. 462 ere nis no iargoun no iangle ne iuggeme[n]tis falce. c1477 CAXTON Jason 14 After the Iugement of the men ye are the very myrrour of al vertues. 1560 J. DAUS tr. Sleidane's Comm. Ded. Aijb, The place and dignity, to the which (by the iudgement of al men) you are most worthely called. 1659 RAY Corr. (1848) 2 You have my designs, and I desire your judgment of them. 1671 TEMPLE Lett., to Sir J. Temple Wks. 1731 II. 247 Upon all these Passages..I have fixed my Judgment of the Affairs and Counsels at present in Design. 1841 MYERS Cath. Th. III. viii. 31 Scripture..with its selection of facts and moral judgements of them, has been ordained of God to be written thus rather than otherwise. 1865 DICKENS Mut. Fr. I. vi, We'll pass no judgement upon that.
    7. a. The formation of an opinion or notion concerning something by exercising the mind upon it; an opinion, estimate.

c1380 WYCLIF Sel. Wks. III. 345 Wher men of worse liif mai sunner erre in er jugement. 1390 GOWER Conf. III. 45 Ek also Aeremance in juggement To love he bringth of his assent. 1559 W. CUNINGHAM Cosmogr. Glasse 86 This waye in my iudgement doeth excell all the rest. 1594 SHAKES. Rich. III, III. iv. 45 To morrow, in my iudgement, is too sudden. 1671 R. BOHUN Wind 113 Wee may better make judgement of these Winds. 1741 WATTS Improv. Mind I. v. §1 If we would form a judgment of a book. 1799 MACKINTOSH Stud. Law Nature & Nations Wks. 1846 I. 385 To form a sound judgment on political measures. 1884 Times (weekly ed.) 5 Sept. 3/1 In his judgment they..had no occasion to bow down to any one.
    b. A form of religious opinion or belief; a ‘persuasion’. Obs.

1653 CROMWELL Sp. in Select. fr. Harl. Misc. (1793) 376 If I did seem to speak any thing, that might seem to reflect upon those of the Presbyterian judgment. c1665 MRS. HUTCHINSON Mem. Col. Hutchinson (1863) 66 Having been before of the Arminian judgement. 1687 Assur. Abb. Lands 90, I do not herein aim at reflecting upon the Conformists in general; for..there are many sober, vertuous and religeous Persons of that Judgment.
    c. private judgement: the formation of personal or individual opinion (esp. in religious matters), as opposed to the acceptance of a statement or doctrine on authority.

1718 T. HERNE (title) Defense of Private Judgment. 1840 CARLYLE Heroes, Priest (1872) 115 Liberty of private judgment, if we will consider it, must at all times have existed in the world.
    8. a. The faculty of judging; ability to form an opinion; that function of the mind whereby it arrives at a notion of anything; the critical faculty; discernment.

1535 JOYE Apol. Tindale (Arb.) 11 Men of greter knowleg..and more excellent iugement in holy scripture. 1599 SHAKES. Hen. V, III. vii. 58 You haue good iudgement in Horsemanship. 1667 MILTON P.L. VIII. 636 Take heed lest Passion sway Thy Judgement. 1709 POPE Ess. Crit. I. 9 'Tis with our judgments as our watches, none Go just alike, yet each believes his own. a1832 MACKINTOSH Revol. 1688, Wks. 1846 II. 264 Clarendon was zealous, but of small judgment. 1870 J. H. NEWMAN Gram. Assent II. ix. 347 Aristotle calls the faculty which guides the mind in matters of conduct, by the name of phronesis, or judgment.
    b. Good or sound judgement; discernment, discretion, wisdom, understanding, good sense.

1576 FLEMING Panopl. Epist. To Rdr. v, Whose minde is beautified with the amiable iuelles of knowledge, and iudgement. 1612 ROWLANDS Knave Harts 20 Boy, bring good wine, when men of iudgement cals. 1784 COWPER Task VI. 657 A deed..owing more To want of judgment than to wrong design.
    c. transf. A person having good judgement; a competent critic; a ‘judge’. (Cf. genius, wit.)

1606 SHAKES. Tr. & Cr. I. ii. 208 Hee's a man good inough, hee's one o' th' soundest iudgement(s) in Troy whosoeuer. 1668 DRYDEN Even. Love Epil. 3 Looking for a judgment or a wit, Like Jews, I saw them scattered through the pit. 1682 SIR T. BROWNE Chr. Mor. II. §4 To undervalue a solid Judgment, because he knows not the genealogy of Hector.
    d. Sc. Reason, senses, wits.

1800 Monthly Mag. I. 239 The poor man has lost his judgement. Mod. He has gone out of his judgement. You nearly frichtit me out o' my juidgements.
    9. Logic.    a. = DISPOSITION 1c. Obs.

1628 T. SPENCER Logick 149 Hitherto wee haue handled the first part of Logicke; called Invention. Wee come now to the second, termed Iudgement. 1678 PHILLIPS (ed. 4), Judgment, the second part of Logick which Disposes of Arguments for Disputation.
    b. The action of mentally apprehending the relation between two objects of thought; predication, as an act of the mind. With pl. A mental assertion or statement; a proposition, as formed in the mind.

1704 NORRIS Ideal World II. iii. 125 The old Philosophy..meaning by judgment the union or separation of things by affirmation or negation. 1725 WATTS Logic II. Introd., The foregoing sentences which are examples of the act of judgment, are properly called propositions: Plato is a philosopher, &c. 1827 WHATELY Logic 59 Judgement is the comparing together in the mind two of the notions or ideas which are the objects of apprehension. 1860 ABP. THOMSON Laws. Th. II. §67. 108 A Judgment, then, is an expression that two notions can or cannot be reconciled. 1864 BOWEN Logic v. 105 Judgment is that act of mind whereby the relation of one Concept to another..is determined.
    10. In various biblical uses, chiefly as rendering of Heb. mishpt, in its different uses.    a. Justice, righteousness, equity. (= DOOM n. 8.)

a1325 Prose Psalter xlix. 22 [l.21] Y shal stablis iugumen oayn y face. 1526 TINDALE Matt. xxiii. 23 The waygthtyer mattres of the lawe..iudgement, mercy, and fayth. 1611 BIBLE Isa. lxi. 8 For I the Lord loue Iudgement, I hate robbery for burnt offering.
    b. A (divine) decree, ordinance, law, statute.

a1420 HOCCLEVE De Reg. Princ. 1343 The iugementz of god ben to vs hid. 1526 TINDALE Rom. xi. 33 Howe incomprehensible are his iudgementes, and hys wayes vnserchable. 1535 COVERDALE Ps. cxix. 30, I haue chosen the way of treuth, thy iudgmentes haue I layed before me. 1611 BIBLE Exod. xxi. 1 Now these are the Iudgements which thou shalt set before them [COVERD., Genev., Bps.' Bible, lawes].
    c. Sentence or decision in a person's favour; (one's) right.

1611 BIBLE Deut. x. 18 He doth execute the iudgement of [COVERD. etc., He doeth right vnto] the fatherlesse and widow.  Job xxvii. 2 As God liueth, who hath taken away my iudgment [COVERD., my power: R.V. my right].
    11. The function of a ‘judge’ or ruler (in the ancient Hebrew state: see JUDGE n. 3). Obs. rare.

1558 KNOX First Blast (Arb.) 41 It is euident, that her [Deborah's] iudgement or gouernement in Israel was no such vsurped power.
    12. A district under a jurisdiction. Obs. rare.

1617 MORYSON Itin. III. 251 The third league called the tenne judgments, (or jurisdictions) and consisting of tenne communities joined in the league..1498.
    13. attrib. and Comb., as judgement bar, book, call, hour, house, -monger, peal, place, throne; judgement-cap = BLACK CAP 1; judgement creditor, a creditor in whose favour a judgement has been given ordering the payment of the debt due to him; judgement debt, a debt for the payment of which a judgement has been given; so judgement debtor, a debtor against whom such a judgement has been given; judgement-like a. (Sc.), ‘applied to what is supposed to be like a token of divine displeasure’ (Jam.); judgement note (U.S.), a promissory note containing a power of attorney to appear and confess judgement for the sum therein named (Bouvier); judgement sample Statistics (see quot.); judgement summons, a summons issued in a County Court against a judgement debtor, to show cause why he should not be imprisoned for default in payment; judgement weather (Sc.) = ‘judgement-like’ weather (see above).
1613 T. MILLES tr. Mexia's etc. Treas. Anc. & Mod. T. 713/2 They would presume so farre as the *iudgement Bars, and there spread a Gowne on the ground before the Magistrate.
1660 R. COKE Power & Subj. 159 He which will not celebrate it, let him undergo the penalty in the *Judgment-book.
1847 M. HOWITT Ballads 207 The last great *judgment-call.
1838 Act 1 & 2 Vict. c. 110 §11 Providing adequate means for enabling *judgment creditors to obtain satisfaction from the property of their debtors.
Ibid. §17 Every *judgment debt shall carry interest at the rate of four pounds per centum per annum. 1875 POSTE Gaius III. (ed. 2) 414. 1881 Jrnl. Inst. Bankers Nov. 563 Every debt proved was made a judgement debt.
1838 Act 1 & 2 Vict. c. 110 §15 No disposition of the *judgment debtor in the meantime shall be valid..as against the judgment creditor. 1883 Wharton's Law-Lex. (ed. 7), Judgment-debtor, one against whom a judgment ordering him to pay a sum of money stands unsatisfied. 1526 *Iudgement housse [see JUDGEMENT-HALL 1534].
1708 M. BRUCE Good News in Evil T. 11 It was *Judgment-like and a token of it to that poor Land, when Godly Baruch..fell into that fault.
1659 D. PELL Impr. Sea 475 God..likes not such a *judgement-out-braving temper.
1830 SCOTT Doom Devorgoil II. ii, That sounded like the *judgment-peal.
1592 SHAKES. Rom. & Jul. I. i. 109 To old Free~towne, our common *iudgement place.
1947 W. E. DEMING in Jrnl. Marketing Oct. 145/1 *Judgment-samples, wherein the biases and sampling errors cannot be calculated from the sample, but instead must be settled by judgment.
1888 Pall Mall G. 1 Sept. 11/2 A man marries on credit, and repents on *judgment summonses.
1561 T. NORTON Calvin's Inst. I. 33 Why should Paul feare to set Christ in the *iudgement throne of God? 1776 TOPLADY Hymn, Rock of Ages iv, When I..See Thee on Thy judgment-throne.
1822 SCOTT Pirate vi, It's no that I wad shut the door against decent folk, more especially in such *judgment-weather.
    Hence judgemented a. [see -ED2], having judgement or discernment (of a specified kind). (In comb. or with preceding adv.)

1548 GESTE Pr. Masse in H. G. Dugdale Life App. i. (1840) 95 Wel learned and godly judgemented. 1654 FULLER Two Serm. 68 To make them Charitably judgemented of the finall Estate of all such Infants. 1821 New Monthly Mag. II. 322 Boys..supreme-judgmented in taws, blood-alleys, and peg-tops.
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    judgement, n.

   judgement call n. orig. U.S., a decision based on a subjective judgement or opinion; (also) a situation necessitating such a decision.

1915 Washington Post 22 Aug. II. 2/4 Good place for a bluff, eh, doc? I'll make a *judgment call on kings up. What y' got? 1956 Chron.-Telegram (Elyria, Ohio) 26 July 28/1 The two incidents he referred to caused lengthy arguments during the game. The first, as Meyers said, was a judgement call. 1972 Daily Tribune (Great Bend, Kansas) 31 May 2/5 If Steve had known it was going to break, we could have gotten everybody out... It was a bad judgment call. 1983 W. GOLDMAN Adventures in Screen Trade 154 Let me circle back to Gunga Din and make strictly a judgment call: It is my absolute opinion that..it is infinitely superior to any of the Lucas-Spielberg prizewinners. 2001 Bloomberg Money Dec. 31/1 There is no rule that is set in stone... I'm afraid you have to make a judgement call on each case.

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 04:13:33 PM »

Desperation becomes you.   Grin

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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 04:20:49 PM »

Desperation becomes you.   Grin



You were the one using the variant spelling; you were the one claiming that variant spellings were for "people who consitently make those errors are generally too stupid to ever correct themselves".

here we have a complete excerpt from the OED in which the spelling you use "judgment" is the variant.  That makes you, in your own words, "too stupid".
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 05:54:24 PM »

Desperation becomes you.   Grin



You're the one channeling Camplaigner. What a nice source you have there. Everyone knows Camplaigner's a liar.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 05:54:48 PM »

You were the one using the variant spelling; you were the one claiming that variant spellings were for "people who consitently make those errors are generally too stupid to ever correct themselves".

here we have a complete excerpt from the OED in which the spelling you use "judgment" is the variant.  That makes you, in your own words, "too stupid".

Show us the heading for the entry, John.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 05:55:44 PM »

You're the one channeling Camplaigner. What a nice source you have there. Everyone knows Camplaigner's a liar.

I know very little of Campaigner.

I have not seen him post any lies.
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2010, 06:29:06 PM »

I know very little of Campaigner.

I have not seen him post any lies.

Of course you haven't. You never recognize liars and always end up being an unwitting apologist for them. I.e. George W. Bush, Arthur Laffer, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libbey, . . . the list goes on and on.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 06:33:08 PM »

Cite some of the alleged lies... with proof that there were in fact, lies.
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2010, 06:34:03 PM »

Show us the heading for the entry, John.

   
judgement, judgment                                                                                    SECOND EDITION 1989  
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2010, 07:33:53 PM »

Cite some of the alleged lies... with proof that there were in fact, lies.

It's all been done. It's fait accompli, like the fact that Arthur Laffer is a fraud.

Prove something once, why prove it again for someone intent on obfuscating it anyway?
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2010, 07:38:11 PM »

Still waiting for the moron to prove his assertion about lexicography.  You know to prove that he is, in fact stupid.
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