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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #390 on: May 23, 2017, 11:33:24 PM »
Then when does "Easter" end?
--On the eve of Pentecost - fifty days after Easter.

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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #391 on: May 23, 2017, 11:36:35 PM »
Same thing as Lent?
--No. Lent is a penitential season preceding Easter. It starts on a Wednesday and lasts 47 days, ending on the day before Easter.

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« Reply #392 on: June 16, 2017, 12:59:20 PM »
Vladimir Putin: It’s My “Duty” To Stop Gay Marriage
In an interview with Oliver Stone, Putin declared "God has decided."

Kristina Marusic
June 15 2017

Vladimir Putin claims it’s his “duty” to stop gay people from getting married.

In an interview with Oliver Stone airing on Showtime this week, the Russian president explained that, as head of state, he was obligated “to uphold traditional values and family values.”

His reasoning? “Because same-sex marriages will not produce any children. God has decided, and we have to care about birth rates in our country. We have to reinforce families.”

“But,” he added, “that doesn’t mean that there should be any persecutions against anyone.”

Repression of Russia’s LGBT community is well-documented, but Putin has continually denied queer people face persecution. Talking with Stone, he claimed Russia is “liberal-minded to a great extent,” and insisted gay Russians are under no particular threat.

“There is no situation like in some Muslim countries, where homosexuals face the death penalty. We have no restrictions or harassment based on gender. Moreover, many people explicitly talk about their non-traditional sexual orientation. We maintain relations with them and many of them achieve outstanding results in their activity. They even get state awards and orders for their achievements.”

He added that there are no laws prohibiting gays from serving in the military, prompting Stone to ask whether he’d be comfortable showering on a submarine with a homosexual crewman.

“I prefer not to go to the shower with him,” Putin responded. “Why provoke him? But you know, I’m a judo master and a Sambo master as well.”

Putin did, however, defend Russia’s ban on same-sex adoption: “I cannot say that it is welcomed by our public,” he conceded. “I say this frankly. In my view, children will have a freer choice when they become adults if they grow up in a traditional family.”

He used similar rhetoric to defend Russia’s “gay propaganda” ban, telling Stone the law allows children “the opportunity to grow up without impacting their consciousness.”

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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #393 on: June 16, 2017, 08:15:09 PM »
Vladimir Putin: It’s My “Duty” To Stop Gay Marriage
In an interview with Oliver Stone, Putin declared "God has decided."


better be careful Mornac.....

people are going to accuse you of Russian collusion.
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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #394 on: June 17, 2017, 05:34:30 PM »
better be careful Mornac.....

people are going to accuse you of Russian collusion.

 ;D ;D

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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #395 on: June 17, 2017, 06:05:19 PM »
Very encouraging to see no one objecting to this stuff! Here's another:


French parliament approves ban on face veils

By ANGELA DOLAND
Associated Press Writer

Tue Jul 13, 1:23 pm ET
 
PARIS – France's lower house of parliament overwhelmingly approved a ban on wearing burqa-style Islamic veils Tuesday, part of a concerted effort to define and protect French values that has disconcerted many in the country's large Muslim community.

Proponents of the law say face-covering veils don't square with the French ideal of women's equality or its secular tradition. The bill is controversial abroad but popular in France, where its relatively few outspoken critics say conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy has resorted to xenophobia to attract far-right voters.

The ban on burqas and niqabs will go in September to the Senate, where it also is likely to pass. Its biggest hurdle will likely come after that, when France's constitutional watchdog scrutinizes it. Some legal scholars say there is a chance it could be deemed unconstitutional.

Spain and Belgium have similar bans in the works. In France, which has Europe's largest Muslim population, about 5 million of the country's 64 million people are believed to be Muslim. While ordinary headscarves are common in France, only about 1,900 women are believed to wear face-covering veils.

The main body representing French Muslims says such garb is not suitable in France, but it worries that the ban will stigmatize all Muslims.

In Tuesday's vote at the National Assembly, there were 335 votes for the bill and just one against it. Most members of the main opposition group, the Socialist Party, walked out and refused to vote, though they in fact support a ban. They simply have differences over where it should be enforced, underscoring the lack of controversy among French politicians on the issue.

The bill passed Tuesday bans face-covering veils everywhere that can be considered public space, even in the street, but the Socialists only want it in certain places, such as government buildings, hospitals and public transport.

France's government has sought to insist that assimilation is the only path for immigrants and minorities, and last year it launched a grand nationwide debate on what it means to be French. The country has had difficulty integrating generations of immigrants and their children, as witnessed by weeks of rioting by youths, many of them minorities, in troubled neighborhoods in 2005.

At the National Assembly, few dissenters spoke out about civil liberties or fears of fanning anti-Islam sentiment. Before the vote, Greens lawmaker Francois de Rugy said the conservatives "are throwing oil on the fire — you are reviving tensions just to win votes."

Legislator Berengere Poletti, of Sarkozy's party, said face-covering veils "are a prison for women, they are the sign of their submission to their husbands, brothers or fathers."

The niqab and burqa are also seen here as a gateway to extremism and an attack on secularism, a central value of France for more than a century.

Discussions in France have dragged on for more than a year, since Sarkozy declared in June 2009 that the burqa is "not welcome" in France.

There has been some concern the bill could prod terror groups to eye France or its citizens as potential targets. Following Sarkozy's comments, al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb issued a statement on Web sites vowing to "seek vengeance against France."

The legislation would forbid face-covering Muslim veils in all public places in France and calls for euro150 ($185) fines or citizenship classes, or both.

The bill also is aimed at husbands and fathers — anyone convicted of forcing someone else to wear the garb risks a year of prison and a euro30,000 ($38,000) fine, with both penalties doubled if the victim is a minor.

Officials have taken pains to craft language that does not single out Muslims. While the proposed legislation is colloquially referred to as the "anti-burqa law," it is officially called "the bill to forbid concealing one's face in public."

It refers neither to Islam nor to veils. Officials insist the law against face-covering is not discriminatory because it would apply to everyone, not just Muslims. Yet they cite a host of exceptions, including motorcycle helmets, or masks for health reasons, fencing, skiing or carnivals.

In March, France's highest administrative body, the Council of State, warned that the law could be found unconstitutional. It said that neither French secularism nor concerns about women's equality, human dignity or public security could be legal justifications.

Anticipating a ban on the veils, an entrepreneur who tried to run for president in 2007, Rachid Nekkaz, is creating a fund to pay the fines of anyone caught wearing a niqab or burqa.

While he says he opposes the full veils, he says a ban would be anti-democratic, and he is creating the fund "so that my country is not the disgrace of the whole world."

In Cairo, Islamic scholar Abdelmotie Bayoumi said a French ban would not violate Islamic law, but would violate personal freedoms.

"The niqab has no strong legitimacy based on Quran or in examples from the Prophet's life that makes it a religious imposition on women. A Muslim woman wears the niqab not because of religious duty, but as a personal freedom," said Bayoumi, whose books include "Contemporary Testimonies," about the full-face veil.

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It is a public safety issue. Only a fool would object to the policy of banning the clothing
that hides the entire face.  If the camel humpers don't like such policy then they need to go back from where they came.  And take the local troll with them.  I don't think he would know a woman from a cow.  Guess what, a cow has four faucets, how's that for
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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #396 on: August 03, 2017, 08:38:44 AM »
EU THREATENS TO PUNISH COUNTRIES THAT WON’T ADMIT MIGRANTS

EU gives countries one month to comply, or face sanctions

Stephen Wynn
August 2, 2017

BRUSSELS – The European Union is threatening to sanction Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic if they do not yield to its demands on migrants.

The European Commission, the executive body of the European Union, last week launched an “infringement procedure” against the three central European member states, declaring they have one month to comply or face punishment.

The European Court of Justice is siding with the Commission, ruling members are bound by E.U. law to accept the relocation plan.

Hundreds of thousands of migrants have landed in Italy and Greece since 2015, and E.U. officials have sought to relieve the pressure on the bloc’s southern periphery by transferring migrants deeper into Europe. The migration relocation plan was pushed through the European Parliament in September 2015 against the wishes of several member states.

The Commission singles Sweden out for praise for opening its doors to migrants, but critics of the relocation policy note problems, stirring in the Scandinavian state.

Many Swedes are becoming discontented with the rising number of migrants and a sharp rise in gang activity, sexual assaults and other crime reported in cities with large migrant populations.

Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic point to the problems in Sweden to bolster arguments that they are not bound to admit migrants. Such is counter to their national interest, they say, and runs counter to the will of their people.

In June, the Czech Republic canceled its participation in the resettlement program, citing safety concerns.

“Due to the aggravated security situation and the dysfunctionality of the whole system,” Czech Interior Minister Milan Chovanec announced, “the government approved … a proposal to halt this system for the Czech Republic.”

Immediately after the Czech withdrawal, the government of Poland vowed the question of migrant admittance would be decided by the country’s voters

“The public’s voice will be heard,” declared President Andrzej Duda.

Reiterating his government’s position on the issue, Duda affirmed, “Poland does not consent to the forced relocation of refugees on our territory.”

Praised by President Trump for its role in preserving Western civilization, Poland is already facing E.U. censure due to recent judicial reforms intended to purge its court system of leftist, communist-era judges. Even so, Polish officials say, E.U. sanctions pose less of a threat to the country than thousands of migrants from the Middle East.

Like its neighbors to the north, Hungary is holding out against the E.U. migrant mandate. In June, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán warned Brussels that if the E.U. tries “to force the relocation program on us,” he would exercise Hungary’s veto.

In October 2016, Orbán organized a national referendum on whether the country should obey E.U. directives on migrants. Of those voting, 96 percent rejected the relocation program.

Several of Hungary’s leading Catholic officials are allies of the prime minister, whose government has enacted new laws, prohibiting border crossings and criminalizing the transport of migrants inside the country.

“Those arriving have been raised in another religion and represent a radically different culture. Most of them are not Christians but Muslims,” Orbán wrote in September 2015. “This is an important question because Europe and European identity are rooted in Christianity.”

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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #397 on: August 24, 2017, 12:05:24 AM »
Pope Francis Faces Backlash for Migrant Demands: ‘Italy Cannot Support Everyone’

Geller Report Staff
August 23, 2017

Pope Francis has spent months pressing for the United Kingdom and the United States to take in more refugees and migrants from mostly Muslim nations — and the rebellion is starting to take root.

Italy, for one, called out the pope for his “unheard meddling in Italian politics,” as the Express put it.

And others, angry at the pope’s refugee quota demands, have pointed to the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church leader’s call for more, more, more migrants — all the while, living safely behind fortified and well-guarded Vatican walls.

The Express has the story:

Matteo Salvini, leader of the eurosceptic Lega Nord party told the Pope should instead house migrant families in the Vatican.

There are growing calls from the left to allow migrants ‘Ius Soli’ – roughly translated as birthright citizenship.

Supporters believe that the new law would help integration in Italy.

Mr Salvini said: “If the Pope wants to apply ‘ius soli’ in the Vatican city, go ahead and do it, but Italy can’t receive everyone.”

Tony Iwobi, who is responsible for the Department of Security and Immigration of Lega Nord, said it was “a serious and unheard meddling of Pope Francis in Italian politics. With this yes to ius soli and ius culturae”.

Pope Francis has said that “every foreigner who knocks at our door is an opportunity to meet Jesus Christ, who identifies with the welcomed or rejected foreigners.”

The Pope’s theme for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees in January is to “host, protect, promote and integrate migrants and refugees”.

Member of the Senate of Italy, Roberto Calderoli, said the Pope is “wrong to invoke citizenship for all those people who still have to prove they want to integrate, adapt to our laws and our way of life.”

Mr Calderoli said he was concerned that this change of citizenship would give away Italian citizenship to over two million immigrants.

He claimed that Italy is the country that grants the most citizenships in Europe at 200,000 each year.

An army of migrants have arrived in Italy in the last few years as they flee Africa and the Middle East.

It has been revealed that almost 200,000 migrants arrived in 2016 to Italy.


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Re: A culture moves to protect itself. Any objections?
« Reply #398 on: October 07, 2017, 01:05:36 AM »
Le Pen Calls for Tough Anti-Terror Law in France, Islamism Seeks ‘to Enslave Us’

THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D.
4 Oct 2017

In the wake of the Marseille jihadist attack Saturday, French politician Marine Le Pen has called for anti-terrorist legislation that directly combats Islamist ideology, which “wages war” on the West and seeks “our enslavement.”

As the French Parliament debates a new anti-terror bill put forward by the Ministry of the Interior, the President of the National Front Party, Marine Le Pen, has labeled the proposed legislation “shameful” for its lack of teeth, calling instead for a “great anti-terrorist law,” which would recognize a terrorist act as “an act of war,” and which “truly combats the Islamist ideology that has planned our enslavement.”

On Saturday, an illegal Tunisian immigrant allegedly stabbed two young women to death in Marseille while shouting “Allahu Akbar” (god is greater), in a terrorist act claimed by the Islamic State jihadist group.

The man’s victims were two cousins in their twenties, one of whom he killed by slitting her throat with a knife. This is the latest instance of a long string of jihadist terror acts perpetrated throughout the French Republic in the last months.

According to the Paris-based Center for the Analysis of Terrorism, France is the Islamic State’s number-one target in the West, and with some 30 percent of Islamic State foreign attacks taking place on French soil.

During a press conference Tuesday morning, Le Pen sharply criticized the existing proposal, insisting that Islamic terrorism must be called by its name and treated as the menace it is.

Later, Le Pen quoted herself on Twitter, noting: “The Islamist ideology is a political-religious ideology that has planned our enslavement and wages war on us.”

“We must never get used to terrorism,” Le Pen told reporters, adding that “security is the first duty of a state.”

During her address, Le Pen called for the “systematic expulsion of foreign delinquents” and more generally to facilitate the deportation of foreigners in irregular situations.

“Terrorist organizations take advantage of European weakness,” she said, and “the great law on terrorism should have as its aim the eradication of the manifestations of Islamist ideology everywhere and in all its forms.”

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« Reply #399 on: October 17, 2017, 09:15:46 AM »
CATHOLIC POPULIST ELECTED CHANCELLOR OF AUSTRIA

Stephen Wynne
October 16, 2017   

Control of migration central to political platform

VIENNA (ChurchMilitant.com) - In a surge of populist fervor, Austrian voters ousted leftist incumbents from office Sunday and swept a young conservative and his party into power.

The center-right People's Party (OVP) claimed the top spot in the national elections, with 31 percent of the vote. As a result, party leader Sebastian Kurz is advancing to the chancellorship of Austria. At just 31, upon assuming office Kurz will be world's youngest national leader.

After declaring victory, Kurz vowed that it's time for a change in Austria and thanked those for entrusting him to guide the country through the coming transformation, "Many people have placed great hopes in our movement. ... It's time to establish a new political style ... I accept this responsibility with great humility."

The victory is the culmination of a remarkable rise for the young leader. Described as a conservative Roman Catholic, Kurz's views often align with the populist Freedom Party (FPÖ).

In 2011 at age 27, Kurz was appointed state secretary for integration, overseeing government efforts to assimilate immigrants into Austrian society. In 2013, Kurz became the country's foreign minister.

Kurz assumed leadership of the center-right OVP in May 2017 and immediately set about revamping its platform, shifting it to the Right to align more closely with the FPÖ. He severed a long-troubled coalition with the leftist Social Democrats and transformed his party into an "Austria first" movement.

The move tapped into growing unrest among Austrians over migration.

Austria shares certain cultural, historical and religious ties with the group of Catholic central European countries (Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic) who reject the European Union's migrant quota scheme. But when the migrant crisis erupted in 2015, Vienna bent to the will of Brussels and Berlin and admitted waves of migrants into the country. In 2015 alone, 90,000 — the equivalent of one percent of the nation's population — poured into Austria from the Middle East and North Africa.

Pushback was not long in coming. Kurz became a vocal critic of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door migrant policy. Unafraid of antagonizing Berlin, he brokered the closure of the Balkan route into Europe in 2016. He also publicly endorsed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's construction of a border fence to prevent migrants from illegally entering his country.

Some analysts foresee Kurz's election will prompt an "earthquake" for the European Union.

Already, government policy is shifting against the former open-door program.

In August, Austria announced it would send soldiers to its southern border to prevent migrants crossing into the country from Italy. On October 1, a ban on full-face veils in public entered into force.

These moves reflect growing concerns over the rise of Islam in Austrian society.

On September 11, 2016, during Mass at St. Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna, Cdl. Christoph Schönborn hearkened back to the Christian victory over Islamic armies, owing to the intervention of the Blessed Virgin during the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

Posing an ominous question, he asked, "Will there be a third Islamic attempt to conquer Europe?" 

Schönborn then warned, "Many Muslims think this and wish this and say that Europe is at its end."

But it was not Islam Schönborn blamed. Europeans, he said, are "in danger of forfeiting our Christian heritage."

"Europe's Christian legacy is in danger because we Europeans have squandered it," the cardinal said. "The opportunity for a Christian renewal of Europe lies in our hands."

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« Reply #400 on: October 27, 2017, 10:12:20 AM »
Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

Oct. 27, 2017

The Catalan regional parliament has voted to declare independence from Spain, just as the Spanish government appears set to impose direct rule.

The move was backed 70-10 in a ballot boycotted by opposition MPs.

Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy earlier told senators direct rule was needed to return "law, democracy and stability" to Catalonia.

The crisis began when Catalans backed independence in a disputed vote earlier this month.

The Catalan government said that of the 43% of potential voters who took part in the referendum, 90% were in favour of independence. But Spain's Constitutional Court had ruled the vote illegal.

In all, the motion declaring independence was approved with 70 in favour, 10 against and two abstentions in the 135-seat chamber.

Immediately afterwards, Mr Rajoy called for all Spaniards to remain calm, promising to "restore legality" to Catalonia.

Spain's Senate is still to vote on whether for the first time to enact Article 155 of the Spanish constitution, which empowers the government to take "all measures necessary to compel" a region in case of a crisis.

It would enable Madrid to fire Catalan leaders, and take control of the region's finances, police and public media.

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« Reply #401 on: November 12, 2017, 11:16:27 PM »
Tensions as Paris suburb tries to stop Muslim street prayers




Associated Press (AP "flyboy"!)
November 10, 2017

CLICHY-LA-GARENNE, France –  Tensions have erupted as residents and the mayor of a Paris suburb try to block Muslims from praying in the street, in a dispute that reflects nationwide problems with mosque shortages.

Police formed a human barricade between a few dozen Muslim residents trying to pray Friday in the streets of Clichy-la-Garenne and more than 100 demonstrators trying to stop them.

As the Muslims chanted "Allahu akbar," or "God is great" in Arabic, the demonstrators sang the Marseillaise.

Mayor Remi Muzueau led demonstrators to the site where Muslims have been praying for months. Those praying tried to set up on a side street instead, but police pushed them back, prompting minor skirmishes.

No one has been hurt, but both sides appear to be digging in their heels in the dispute.

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« Reply #402 on: December 04, 2017, 10:22:46 PM »
Supreme Court allows full enforcement of Trump travel ban

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday allowed the Trump administration to fully enforce a ban on travel to the United States by residents of six mostly Muslim countries.

This is not a final ruling on the travel ban: Challenges to the policy are winding through the federal courts, and the justices themselves ultimately are expected to rule on its legality.

But the action indicates that the high court might eventually approve the latest version of the ban, announced by President Donald Trump in September. Lower courts have continued to find problems with the policy.

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« Reply #403 on: February 07, 2018, 05:03:08 PM »
Denmark poised to ban Islamic full-face veils

'It is incompatible with the values of the Danish society', says country's justice minister

Harry Cockburn
o2/o7/2018

The Danish government is poised to become the next European country to introduce a ban on Islamic full-face coverings in public places.

The government said it planned to fine people who wore items including the burqa and the niqab which are worn by some Muslim women.

Under the proposals anyone found covering their face would be fined 1,000 kroner (£120), or up to 10,000 kroner (£1,200) if they are repeatedly caught.

“It is incompatible with the values of the Danish society or the respect for the community to keep the face hidden when meeting each other in the public space,” Justice Minister Justice Soren Pape Poulsen said.

“With a ban, we draw a line in the sand and establish that here in Denmark we show each other trust and respect by meeting each other face to face,” he said.

The restrictions have been supported by the Danish People’s Party – which the minority ruling coalition government depends on to push through legislation.

All three parties in the coalition had said last October they would support such a ban.

It has been previously estimated the introduction of the law in Denmark will affect fewer than 200 women.

Fancy dress for Halloween or for sports mascots will still be allowed.

France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Bulgaria and the German state of Bavaria have all implemented restrictions on Islamic full-face veils in public.

Following legal challenges to Belgium’s 2011 national ban, the European Court of Human Rights upheld the country’s right to implement the ban in full. Judges said it did not violate the rights to private and family life, or freedom of religion or discrimination laws.

In June 2017 Norway’s government proposed a ban on face-covering Muslim veils in kindergartens, schools and universities.

Various head coverings are worn by Muslim women, but the bans will only include those that cover the face.

The niqab, which covers the face but leaves the eyes clear, will therefore be banned, along with the burqa, which is the most concealing of all Islamic veils, leaving just a mesh screen to see through.

Following legal challenges to Belgium’s 2011 national ban, the European Court of Human Rights upheld the country’s right to implement the ban in full. Judges said it did not violate the rights to private and family life, or freedom of religion or discrimination laws.

In June 2017 Norway’s government proposed a ban on face-covering Muslim veils in kindergartens, schools and universities.

Various head coverings are worn by Muslim women, but the bans will only include those that cover the face.

The niqab, which covers the face but leaves the eyes clear, will therefore be banned, along with the burqa, which is the most concealing of all Islamic veils, leaving just a mesh screen to see through.

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« Reply #404 on: February 11, 2018, 09:34:06 PM »
Possible next PM of Italy wants to close mosques and says Islam is incompatible with Italian values

VOICE OF EUROPE 
11 February 2018

Leader of Italy’s eurosceptic party Lega, Matteo Salvini, heavily criticised Islam in an interview.

Salvini said that Islam sees women as inferior and is a law instead of a religion. As a law it is incompatible with Italian values, he said. Asked about mosques, Salvini said he could shut down illegal mosques.

Salvini could become Italy’s next Prime Minister as he takes part in a popular centre-right bloc in Italy’s elections. In several regions he already leads the polls and his support is growing.

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