A Message From Ramsey Clark.....

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Message from Ramsey Clark

Impeachment is not a political question. Impeachment is a constitutional duty. It is the one power and highest duty the Constitution rests in the Congress to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States when the President, Vice President, and other civil officers of the United States commit treason, bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

George Bush has deliberately, falsely and systematically mislead the Congress and the American people concerning the most criminal, costly and harmful acts of his administration, leading us to war, tragic loss of human life, the devastation of Iraq, military expenses reaching trillions of dollars, disruption of the economy that will take decades to overcome, a contemptuous assault on the Bill of Rights, an international humanitarian disaster, deliberate antagonism and provocation of nations and people, most once friendly, and an enlarging assault on the earth's environment.

On June 5, 2008, a long delayed five year U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence study and 170-page report unanimously found President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top officers had made false charges and systematically presented a more dire picture about Iraq than justified by intelligence provided only to them. The Committee included both Democrats and Republicans.

Today President Bush is exerting all his power and influence to repeatedly urge Europe, Israel and others to support an attack on Iran which he intends to commence in the remaining months of the presidency. Iran is larger than Iraq and Afghanistan, has millions of people, richer by a multiple, unimpaired by recent war and will fight fiercely if attacked. He is negotiating a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq placing the U.S. on Iran's border.

The next several Presidents of the United States will spend their time in office miserably fighting wars started by Bush, as our economy is consumed in military spending.

Impeachment, a Constitutional duty, is the only way to prevent George W. Bush and his cabal from vastly enlarging the disastrous wars he has already inflicted on the world and the American people. The House of Representatives must quickly consider Bills of Impeachment long overdue, and the Senate must prepare to sit in judgment of President Bush, Vice President Cheney other officers who are implicated.

Ramsey Clark
June 10, 2008

[ivanm]

I was flipping thru the channels last evening and noticed a woman reading on C-Span.  It was apparently the report of wrongdoing by Bush and company. 

As to Iran, can't it wait?  I don't follow the news carefully but have noticed that Iran is making bellicose noises about attacking Iran.  Maybe this report is on target in that respect? 

It is a tough haul in the ME countries.  The Iraqis criticize our methods, the Afghanis do, and now the Pakistanis are vowing to defend themselves against aggressors.  The details are murky, but apparently a NATO airstrike killed some Paki army troops,
in Pakistan.  I really question the PAK attitude towards the Taliban in that they seem to wink and turn their heads.  They supposedly send large numbers of troops out to get the Taliban but don't seem to accomplish much.  Are they just playing us along so they can sop up some military aid from us? Wouldn't be the first time.   

[Michael]

The U.S. people have always managed to bury things and make themselves out to be the righteous heroes.   They did it with the Apache, and they will do it with the M.E.  It is like a bad habit that some are beyond sick of.

[makesenseplease]

I was flipping thru the channels last evening and noticed a woman reading on C-Span.  It was apparently the report of wrongdoing by Bush and company. 

As to Iran, can't it wait?  I don't follow the news carefully but have noticed that Iran is making bellicose noises about attacking Iran.  Maybe this report is on target in that respect? 

It is a tough haul in the ME countries.  The Iraqis criticize our methods, the Afghanis do, and now the Pakistanis are vowing to defend themselves against aggressors.  The details are murky, but apparently a NATO airstrike killed some Paki army troops,
in Pakistan.  I really question the PAK attitude towards the Taliban in that they seem to wink and turn their heads.  They supposedly send large numbers of troops out to get the Taliban but don't seem to accomplish much.  Are they just playing us along so they can sop up some military aid from us? Wouldn't be the first time.   

The U.S. people have always managed to bury things and make themselves out to be the righteous heroes.   They did it with the Apache, and they will do it with the M.E.  It is like a bad habit that some are beyond sick of.

Ivan,

You wrote this three and a half years ago but America still has not figured it out.



"Pakistan sending troops to Afghanistan to help America fight the Taliban could be liken to Sitting Bull sending warriors to the Little Bighorn to help Custer fight Crazy Horse."

[ivanm]

Ivan,

You wrote this three and a half years ago but America still has not figured it out.



"Pakistan sending troops to Afghanistan to help America fight the Taliban could be liken to Sitting Bull sending warriors to the Little Bighorn to help Custer fight Crazy Horse."

I think they may have at least figured out that their efforts in Afghanistan are more futile than in Iraq.  At least in Iraq the despot was executed and his regime of goons were either killed off or jailed.  Maybe we are reluctant to admit that we have been spinning our wheels in Afghanistan and should cut our losses and leave?

As time goes on and we keep on screwing around making war games in the ME, I see our list of failures growing.  We cannot change Islam no matter how hard we try, and in my opinion that is the underlying problem. 

I am beginning to wonder who the enemy really is in Afghanistan, with no despotic leader to take down.  OBL was  taken out, but he was a global menace and not just a threat to us in Afghanistan, so we are  back to square one, looking for a problem we can fix by taking out a leader of the opposition.  The opposition seems to be the Taliban organization and there are several key figures, even after our taking out a few of the major ones, and when one goes down more take his place.

So has the threat abated, have we accomplished anything? I think the most annoying thing about the Afghanistan situation is the apparent lack of resolve by Karzai and the rest of the host country.  It seems to me that if they wanted to get rid of the Taliban they would take a more active part in doing so, but no, like the Vietnamese, they learned to milk the system and live off of visiting armies for 10 years or so.  Deja vu.