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You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« on: December 21, 2019, 09:15:34 AM »
Bookmark it: Trump will be impeached

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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 02:19:39 PM »
Putin actually said that the House voted to impeach President Trump for "made up reasons". Which is true.

FYI: If the House does not send the Articles to the Senate, Donald J. Trump HAS NOT been impeached.
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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 08:03:09 PM »
FYI: If the House does not send the Articles to the Senate, Donald J. Trump HAS NOT been impeached.

Wrong again (so what else is new?)
FYI:
From the NY Times:
WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives on Wednesday impeached President Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, making him the third president in history to be charged with committing high crimes and misdemeanors and face removal by the Senate.

https://www.bbc.com › news › world-us-canada-39945744
US President Donald Trump has been impeached and now faces the next stage of a process that could, with enough support in Congress, see him removed ...


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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2019, 08:09:47 AM »
Wrong again (so what else is new?)
FYI:
From the NY Times:
WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives on Wednesday impeached President Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, making him the third president in history to be charged with committing high crimes and misdemeanors and face removal by the Senate.

https://www.bbc.com › news › world-us-canada-39945744
US President Donald Trump has been impeached and now faces the next stage of a process that could, with enough support in Congress, see him removed ...

Some people disagree with you on this dalib....

A Law Professor’s Provocative Argument: Trump Has Not Yet Been Impeached
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/us/trump-feldman-impeach.html

WASHINGTON — Maybe President Trump has not been impeached after all, or at least not yet.

Impeachment happens, according to Noah Feldman, a Harvard law professor, only when the House transmits the articles of impeachment to the Senate.

So “technically speaking,” he said, “the president still hasn’t been impeached.”

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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2019, 01:45:45 PM »
Some people disagree with you on this dalib....

A Law Professor’s Provocative Argument: Trump Has Not Yet Been Impeached
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/us/trump-feldman-impeach.html

WASHINGTON — Maybe President Trump has not been impeached after all, or at least not yet.

Impeachment happens, according to Noah Feldman, a Harvard law professor, only when the House transmits the articles of impeachment to the Senate.

So “technically speaking,” he said, “the president still hasn’t been impeached.”


That's a fair argument, although most scholars seem to disagree.
It's a simple question: Did the House of Representatives vote in favor of impeachment? Yes or no?

But Noah Feldman is one of the most respected experts in constitutional law, so his opinion carries some weight. Since you used him to support your own opinion, I assume you value his opinion, as well.

Here is something else he said, in his opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee:

"I’m here today to describe:

 • why the framers of our Constitution included a provision for impeaching the president; 

 • what that provision means; and

 • how it applies to the question before you and the American people: whether President Donald J. Trump has committed impeachable offenses under the Constitution.

I will begin by stating my conclusions:

 • The framers provided for impeachment of the president because they feared that a president might abuse the power of his office to gain personal advantage; to corrupt the electoral process and keep himself in office; or to subvert our national security.

 • High crimes and misdemeanors are abuses of power and public trust connected to the office of the presidency.

 • On the basis of the testimony and evidence before the House, President Trump has committed impeachable high crimes and misdemeanors by corruptly abusing the office of the presidency. Specifically, President Trump abused his office by corruptly soliciting President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce investigations of his political rivals in order to gain personal advantage, including in the 2020 presidential election."

source

« Last Edit: December 26, 2019, 01:59:25 PM by Julia »
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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2019, 05:42:05 PM »
He was impeached.

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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2019, 05:54:54 PM »
He was impeached.

NOPE!! SORRY!!

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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2019, 05:56:53 PM »
Wrong again (so what else is new?)
FYI:
From the NY Times:
WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives on Wednesday impeached President Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, making him the third president in history to be charged with committing high crimes and misdemeanors and face removal by the Senate.

https://www.bbc.com › news › world-us-canada-39945744
US President Donald Trump has been impeached and now faces the next stage of a process that could, with enough support in Congress, see him removed ...

Why do you think we believe what a FOREIGN country has to say about all this, let alone their biased media?

Or did they just say something your little ears wanted to hear??
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Re: You gotta be @#$# kidding me
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2019, 09:47:36 PM »
That's a fair argument, although most scholars seem to disagree.

It does not matter to me either way.
Only wanted to show different points of view.
The Constitutional scholars have differing opinions.
Similar to man made global warming.
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