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« Reply #90 on: March 11, 2010, 10:57:39 AM »

i think it is very similar to the client state status that we had with Iran, after 53, and Chile with Pinochet.

Those were right wing dictatorships. Israel is full fledged democracy.

Big difference.
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« Reply #91 on: March 11, 2010, 10:59:42 AM »

Isn't it convenient for you to disregard this statement I made: "I also would defend the right of Israel to be a sovereign nation, but in turn, I also would defend the right of Palestine, as a sovereign nation with defined borders."

Is it because it disproves your degrading of my character and your ignoring my actual intent to show the crimes the government of Israel is guilty of?

Ditch the thinly-veiled anti-Semitism and the dumbass conspiracy theories and then maybe I wouldn't have a reasonably objective argument against your character. As things stand I have a winning argument, thank you very much.
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« Reply #92 on: March 11, 2010, 11:21:23 AM »

Ditch the thinly-veiled anti-Semitism and the dumbass conspiracy theories and then maybe I wouldn't have a reasonably objective argument against your character. As things stand I have a winning argument, thank you very much.

Look, what I post is back up by FACT, therefor is not a "conspiracy theory". What I post is the truth, a truth you don't like and won't recognize. This does not make what I post hateful, untrue, or antisemitic (as my spell-check recommends).

You do not have a "winning argument", you simply show total hatred to anyone who shows the TRUTH about Israel, her Zionist government, and the crimes committed by them.

BTW: How can you call Israel a "true democracy" when it doesn't even offer a Constitution or  Bill of Rights to it's citizens, affording them the most basic laws and rights as Israeli's?
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« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2010, 12:07:54 PM »

Look, what I post is back up by FACT, therefor is not a "conspiracy theory".

Bullshit.
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« Reply #94 on: March 11, 2010, 12:29:28 PM »

Look, what I post is back up by FACT, therefor is not a "conspiracy theory". What I post is the truth, a truth you don't like and won't recognize. This does not make what I post hateful, untrue, or antisemitic (as my spell-check recommends).

You do not have a "winning argument", you simply show total hatred to anyone who shows the TRUTH about Israel, her Zionist government, and the crimes committed by them.

BTW: How can you call Israel a "true democracy" when it doesn't even offer a Constitution or  Bill of Rights to it's citizens, affording them the most basic laws and rights as Israeli's?
He is trying to be  defensive Holly but since he has no defense of the Israeli barbarians he resorts to shooting you, the messenger.  It is part of his lawyer training.  If all else fails and you have no case then bullshit the jury.
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« Reply #95 on: March 11, 2010, 01:15:14 PM »


Look, what I post is back up by FACT,


Really, is it a fact, as you began this thread with, that a law has been passed?
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« Reply #96 on: March 12, 2010, 09:55:21 AM »

Really, is it a fact, as you began this thread with, that a law has been passed?
The article is specific in its intent to make the average person believe that the law did or would pass.

Isn't the real issue the attitude of the Israelis towards the Palestinians?  Is that a fact or is that also something you would like to wish away?  As usual you cannot see the forest for the trees.
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« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2010, 10:12:44 AM »


The article is specific in its intent to make the average person believe that the law did or would pass.

Isn't the real issue the attitude of the Israelis towards the Palestinians?  Is that a fact or is that also something you would like to wish away?  As usual you cannot see the forest for the trees.


i was responding to Holly's claim that she posts facts.


With regard to Israel's military and foreign policy, i oppose it.  If you were reading my posts all along, you could not have missed that.  However, because i oppose it does not mean that i approve of winning by dissembling.
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« Reply #98 on: March 12, 2010, 05:16:04 PM »

Bullshit.

PROVE IT!!
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« Reply #99 on: March 12, 2010, 07:27:10 PM »

PROVE IT!!

Not necessary, miskite.
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« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2010, 09:14:21 PM »

i was responding to Holly's claim that she posts facts.


With regard to Israel's military and foreign policy, i oppose it.  If you were reading my posts all along, you could not have missed that.  However, because i oppose it does not mean that i approve of winning by dissembling.
It is good to see that you have the good sense to see Israel's barbaric aggression for what it is.  I don't understand your last sentence. Please explain.
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« Reply #101 on: March 14, 2010, 09:18:38 AM »

Not necessary, miskite.

Because you can't!
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« Reply #102 on: March 14, 2010, 01:36:36 PM »

Not necessary, miskite.
miskite?  Is that like a female I am an antisemite?  Roll Eyes
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