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Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« on: December 28, 2018, 03:28:57 PM »
                             
Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent

                             
Jamal Khashoggi’s op-eds published in the very influential Washington Post certainly qualify as attempts to change  U.S. policy against Saudi Arabia and in favor of the Muslim  Brotherhood.

                                                     
                     

                                                                                                             


By Jim Hanson

December 27, 2018

                                                 
The Washington Post has caused itself  a major scandal since it has come to light they and their martyred  “reformer” Jamal Khashoggi were publishing anti-Saudi propaganda for  Qatar. They tried to bury this in a pre-Christmas Saturday news dump,  but that can’t stop the damage this will do to their reputation.


 “Text messages between Khashoggi and an executive at Qatar Foundation  International show that the executive, Maggie Mitchell Salem, at times  shaped the columns he submitted to The Washington Post, proposing  topics, drafting material and prodding him to take a harder line against  the Saudi government,” the Post wrote December 21.


 The Post says they were unaware of this, although Khashoggi’s Qatar  connections were well known. They will have to answer for what is either  incompetence in connecting these dots or simply not caring as  Khashoggi’s attacks on President Trump and the Saudis fit right in with  their narrative. The Qatar Foundation denies they were paying him to  produce the anti-Saudi material.


 But during Security Studies Group research for our report on the  information operation after his death, we heard from reliable sources  familiar with the investigation that documents showing wire transfers  from Qatar were found in his apartment in Turkey. They were immediately  put out of reach by Turkish security services, so they did not show the  collusion between Khashoggi, Qatar, and Turkey prior to his death. We have published a new, unredacted set of findings about the case. It is damning to Qatar, Turkey, and the Washington Post.


 Khashoggi may have been operating in violation of the Foreign Agents  Registration Act by doing this on behalf of Qatar. This is the same law  that caused both Gen. Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort legal jeopardy by  not filing their attempts to influence the U.S. government on behalf of a  foreign entity. The op-eds published in the very influential Washington  Post certainly qualify as attempts to change U.S. policy against Saudi  Arabia and in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, which Qatar supports in  spite of its status as a terrorist organization with most other Gulf  countries.


 Turkey had control of the narrative after the killing as the only  primary source for the media, with Qatar backing up their tales. Both  had eager partners in western media outlets. Security Studies Group  tracked this phenomenon in our paper, “Khashoggi case- Analysis of an Information Operation”:  “Although Turkish-language media supported and helped to drive the  narratives, as did Arabic-language media controlled by Turkish ally  Qatar, the main outlets that Turkish intelligence used to execute their  operation were major Western English- language journalist outlets.”


 There  has been a powerful effort to use this to weaken Saudi Arabia overall  and especially to damage its relationship with the United States.  Khashoggi’s editor at the Washington Post, Karen Attiah, led her paper’s  media crusade that even called for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin  Salman to be deposed:  “No one is asking to throw away the relationship with Saudi Arabia.  This is about putting all of our US eggs in the basket of a dangerous  man, Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman.”


 Qatar has become an increasingly malign influence in the Middle East  and unfortunately now around the world. The United States has a  longstanding relationship with them, including the CENTCOM Forward base  there. But they have been building more and stronger alliances with a  number of countries like Russia, Iran, and Turkey in ways that are  counterproductive to U.S. interests. They have also decided to pull out  of OPEC, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, a move that  will further estrange it from the other Gulf Arab states and OPEC  nations.


 In addition, they have done things we simply should not tolerate,  including hacking U.S. citizens to gain information for blackmail or  influence operations. The hacking seems to have been approved and  coordinated by the Qatari government, and it targeted a number of think tank and national security professionals.


 The scale of the operation, as well as the targets, suggest this was a  state operation. “The extent and volume of information that they were  able to obtain in these subpoenas goes beyond the capabilities of an  individual,” said Sam Rubin, a vice president of Crypsis Group, a  cybersecurity firm


 Qatar  has been a U.S. intermediary to numerous extremist groups including our  current peace negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan and ransom delivery  for the release of Bowe Bergdahl. If anything, this shows their strong  connections to terrorists and continued financing of their operations.  The five Taliban leaders involved in the trade for Bergdahl joined the  Taliban’s political offices in Qatar.


 Qatar and Turkey both benefit from these attacks on Saudi Arabia and  have tried to parley them into actual gains. Erdogan was bold enough to actually ask  for the United States to send him Fethulla Gulen, his main political  rival, who resides here as a green card holder. The irony of Erdogan  using the death of a Saudi opposition activist to ask for the  extradition of opposition leaders he would most likely kill is stunning.  Qatar has been pushing to stop the Gulf Arab blockade against it  without addressing its terrorism financing and other malign actions that  led to it.


 President Trump has extended the hand of friendship to Turkey in  conjunction with the U.S. withdrawal from Syria. But Qatar seems to have  a hand in the bad things going on in far too many places these days to  be considered any kind of an ally. It is time to consider the many ways  they are acting against U.S. interests and make decisions about future  relations based on that.

                         

                                                 
Foreign Policy, Jamal Khashoggi, Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Washington Post,


                         
                                                                                 

http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/27/bombshell-khashoggi-foreign-governments-influence-agent/







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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
Immediately upon learning of his murder, while Liberals were trying to whip us into a frenzy to condemn the Saudi Arabians or to convince us that Khashoggi was the bad guy (as it now shows he was not the bad guy, but the worse guy) we learn that, as I had said from word one, that we should not get sucked into siding with EITHER side.

BOTH sides are Islamists and want Sharia law to rule the World.

People who do not understand political Islam need to wake up to the truth.

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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 03:14:22 PM »
                             
Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent

                             
Jamal Khashoggi’s op-eds published in the very influential Washington Post certainly qualify as attempts to change  U.S. policy against Saudi Arabia and in favor of the Muslim  Brotherhood.

                                                     
                     

                                                                                                             


By Jim Hanson

December 27, 2018

                                                 
The Washington Post has caused itself  a major scandal since it has come to light they and their martyred  “reformer” Jamal Khashoggi were publishing anti-Saudi propaganda for  Qatar. They tried to bury this in a pre-Christmas Saturday news dump,  but that can’t stop the damage this will do to their reputation.


 “Text messages between Khashoggi and an executive at Qatar Foundation  International show that the executive, Maggie Mitchell Salem, at times  shaped the columns he submitted to The Washington Post, proposing  topics, drafting material and prodding him to take a harder line against  the Saudi government,” the Post wrote December 21.


 The Post says they were unaware of this, although Khashoggi’s Qatar  connections were well known. They will have to answer for what is either  incompetence in connecting these dots or simply not caring as  Khashoggi’s attacks on President Trump and the Saudis fit right in with  their narrative. The Qatar Foundation denies they were paying him to  produce the anti-Saudi material.


 But during Security Studies Group research for our report on the  information operation after his death, we heard from reliable sources  familiar with the investigation that documents showing wire transfers  from Qatar were found in his apartment in Turkey. They were immediately  put out of reach by Turkish security services, so they did not show the  collusion between Khashoggi, Qatar, and Turkey prior to his death. We have published a new, unredacted set of findings about the case. It is damning to Qatar, Turkey, and the Washington Post.


 Khashoggi may have been operating in violation of the Foreign Agents  Registration Act by doing this on behalf of Qatar. This is the same law  that caused both Gen. Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort legal jeopardy by  not filing their attempts to influence the U.S. government on behalf of a  foreign entity. The op-eds published in the very influential Washington  Post certainly qualify as attempts to change U.S. policy against Saudi  Arabia and in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, which Qatar supports in  spite of its status as a terrorist organization with most other Gulf  countries.


 Turkey had control of the narrative after the killing as the only  primary source for the media, with Qatar backing up their tales. Both  had eager partners in western media outlets. Security Studies Group  tracked this phenomenon in our paper, “Khashoggi case- Analysis of an Information Operation”:  “Although Turkish-language media supported and helped to drive the  narratives, as did Arabic-language media controlled by Turkish ally  Qatar, the main outlets that Turkish intelligence used to execute their  operation were major Western English- language journalist outlets.”


 There  has been a powerful effort to use this to weaken Saudi Arabia overall  and especially to damage its relationship with the United States.  Khashoggi’s editor at the Washington Post, Karen Attiah, led her paper’s  media crusade that even called for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin  Salman to be deposed:  “No one is asking to throw away the relationship with Saudi Arabia.  This is about putting all of our US eggs in the basket of a dangerous  man, Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman.”


 Qatar has become an increasingly malign influence in the Middle East  and unfortunately now around the world. The United States has a  longstanding relationship with them, including the CENTCOM Forward base  there. But they have been building more and stronger alliances with a  number of countries like Russia, Iran, and Turkey in ways that are  counterproductive to U.S. interests. They have also decided to pull out  of OPEC, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, a move that  will further estrange it from the other Gulf Arab states and OPEC  nations.


 In addition, they have done things we simply should not tolerate,  including hacking U.S. citizens to gain information for blackmail or  influence operations. The hacking seems to have been approved and  coordinated by the Qatari government, and it targeted a number of think tank and national security professionals.


 The scale of the operation, as well as the targets, suggest this was a  state operation. “The extent and volume of information that they were  able to obtain in these subpoenas goes beyond the capabilities of an  individual,” said Sam Rubin, a vice president of Crypsis Group, a  cybersecurity firm


 Qatar  has been a U.S. intermediary to numerous extremist groups including our  current peace negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan and ransom delivery  for the release of Bowe Bergdahl. If anything, this shows their strong  connections to terrorists and continued financing of their operations.  The five Taliban leaders involved in the trade for Bergdahl joined the  Taliban’s political offices in Qatar.


 Qatar and Turkey both benefit from these attacks on Saudi Arabia and  have tried to parley them into actual gains. Erdogan was bold enough to actually ask  for the United States to send him Fethulla Gulen, his main political  rival, who resides here as a green card holder. The irony of Erdogan  using the death of a Saudi opposition activist to ask for the  extradition of opposition leaders he would most likely kill is stunning.  Qatar has been pushing to stop the Gulf Arab blockade against it  without addressing its terrorism financing and other malign actions that  led to it.


 President Trump has extended the hand of friendship to Turkey in  conjunction with the U.S. withdrawal from Syria. But Qatar seems to have  a hand in the bad things going on in far too many places these days to  be considered any kind of an ally. It is time to consider the many ways  they are acting against U.S. interests and make decisions about future  relations based on that.

                         

                                                 
Foreign Policy, Jamal Khashoggi, Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Washington Post,


                         
                                                                                 


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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2019, 03:17:37 PM »
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I gotta tell you before you wear your finger out. Posting a "source" and posting an "original source" are two very different things. Pepsi posted a source, hence, he's not in violation of the copyright laws. Your other examples concern posts without any source.

The lesson for you for this day is to recognize the difference between what I posted -- an original source -- and what Peps posted -- a secondary source.

At any rate, you're off base again. LOL

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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 03:20:08 PM »
I gotta tell you before you wear your finger out. Posting a "source" and posting an "original source" are two very different things. Pepsi posted a source, hence, he's not in violation of the copyright laws. Your other examples concern posts without any source.

The lesson for you for this day is to recognize the difference between what I posted -- an original source -- and what Peps posted -- a secondary source.

At any rate, you're off base again. LOL

It's always best to link to the original source when you're citing something.
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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2019, 03:22:37 PM »
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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2019, 03:23:45 PM »
I'll take that as a thank you.

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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2019, 06:21:39 PM »
The article is nothing more than Damage Control.

They had to have something to justify his murder. :o
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Re: Bombshell: New Info Says Khashoggi Was A Foreign Influence Agent
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2019, 03:07:26 AM »
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Sorry. I must have been suffering a post holiday hallucination. (To explain why I did not post the source link.)


http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/27/bombshell-khashoggi-foreign-governments-influence-agent/

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