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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #105 on: July 10, 2018, 10:34:21 PM »
How can I respond to you if you won't be specific?

I don't know what you think I'm expecting a response to.  I've already tried to tell you I'm not interested in having this discussion with you.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2018, 10:41:13 PM »
I don't know what you think I'm expecting a response to.  I've already tried to tell you I'm not interested in having this discussion with you.

but you were happy to have a discussion with me as I supported your child.     See..now that to me says hypocrisy.

But you go ahead.   That's alright.  I've learned a valuable lesson.  and that's right.  our conversation is over now.
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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2018, 10:46:36 PM »
but you were happy to have a discussion with me as I supported your child.     See..now that to me says hypocrisy.

But you go ahead.   That's alright.  I've learned a valuable lesson.

I appreciate your support of my child.  I really do.  That doesn't mean I want to discuss every crazy topic with you.  It's not personal, I just don't see the value in discussing topics that we start out on light years apart. 

I am interested in discussing the SCOTUS and the Constitution, but you don't seem to be interested in that.

Again, I do appreciate your support of my child.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #108 on: July 11, 2018, 12:37:02 AM »
Here's what I saw.  Is this what you're referring to?

#1, Did not give him the praise and worship that lefties felt he deserved, which is RACIST!

 #2. Criticized his left wing policies, which is, of course, RACIST!

 #3. STILL won't confirm that Hussein, was the GREATEST PRESIDENT, EVER (Because they are RACIST!

 #4. Made mocking images of him, which, unlike making mocking images of Trump, is clearly RACIST!

 #5. Called him "socialist," which, is clearly RACIST!

 #6. Did not vote for his Socialist policies, which, is clearly RACIST!

Okay, I'm capable of changing my mind:

Republicans in Congress did everything they possibly could to obstruct everything he tried to do.  Even if it was something they would have normally supported, they refused to allow him to have any accomplishments to the degree that they could.

A SCOTUS pick that was rightfully his was stolen from him!  So if Dems in the future choose to change the structure of the Court (a faint chance in my opinion), you can thank Mitch for throwing out all of the rules.

He was hung and burned in effigy from nooses!

His children were attacked by conservative pundits on several occasions, in some cases speculating about their sexuality!

Michelle was attacked fairly relentlessly, in some cases compared to an ape!

A Republican yelled out "You Lie!" during the SOTU address!!

Gov. Jan Brewer confronted him at the Phoenix airport, wagging her finger in his face.

The constant unfounded allegations that he was a Muslim.

The constant allegations, including by the current President, that he was not born in this country.  (Whatever became of Trump's investigation in Hawaii that was turning up stuff we wouldn't believe?)

Crazy right-wing claims that he would become a dictator and never allow any more elections.

Claims that he was sympathetic to Muslim terrorists.

Doug Lamborn called Obama a "tar baby".

Speaker Boener invited a foreign head of state (Netanyahu) to address a joint session of Congress without consulting the President.

And yes, of course, there was a constant undertone of racism throughout.  You right wingers still represent his time in office as an economic disaster, inexplicably so in light of the cold hard facts.  We went from losing 750,000 jobs/month to creating ~120,000 or so per month.  The stock market hit new record highs, and the unemployment rate continued to drop, even if stubbornly so.  Unemployment is a lagging indicator during an economic recovery.    We had good relations with our NATO allies and weren't on the verge of a nuclear conflict with North Korea, and we weren't waging a stupid trade war, which is continuing to escalate as I write this.

Despite all of the above, Obama kept his cool and remained calm and collected (I could not have done the same), while maintaining a scandal-free administration.  And we had a classy positive example of a family in the White House.

The rights of historically marginalized groups were being expanded, rather than contracting as they are now.  I know right-wingers don't like that.  Privilege is for white people, especially white men.

You'll no doubt point out things he/they did wrong, but of course they weren't perfect.  No one is, and everyone makes mistakes.  But there is a vast difference between that and what we have now.  There is no comparison.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #109 on: July 11, 2018, 07:25:17 AM »
I appreciate your support of my child.  I really do.  That doesn't mean I want to discuss every crazy topic with you.  It's not personal, I just don't see the value in discussing topics that we start out on light years apart. 

I am interested in discussing the SCOTUS and the Constitution, but you don't seem to be interested in that.

Again, I do appreciate your support of my child.

If she is a sociopath, as we have agreed, she has no empathy. The fact that she has thrown her "support" in your face this way is manipulative. Hence I use the scare quotes.

True empathy would be unconditional.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #110 on: July 11, 2018, 09:43:07 AM »
If she is a sociopath, as we have agreed, she has no empathy. The fact that she has thrown her "support" in your face this way is manipulative. Hence I use the scare quotes.

True empathy would be unconditional.

don't you dare stray from the party line SC.    You've seen it in the past when you've veered off course.   They'll come after you.  Can't have that. 

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #111 on: July 11, 2018, 10:11:50 AM »
man!   just because Obama says something does not make it Absolute truth.   He did NOT have a scandal free administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/obama-administration-stonewalled-inspectors-general/

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #112 on: July 11, 2018, 10:16:14 AM »
don't you dare stray from the party line SC.    You've seen it in the past when you've veered off course.   They'll come after you.  Can't have that.

libass has the true to life dissociative identity disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder).
he pretends to be Ismael Adame, a vile and disgusting personality.

Symptoms may include:

* The individual experiences two or more distinct identities or personality states (each with its own enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self). Some cultures describe this as an experience of possession.

*The disruption in identity involves a change in sense of self, sense of agency, and changes in behavior, consciousness, memory, perception, cognition, and motor function.

*Frequent gaps are found in memories of personal history, including people, places, and events, for both the distant and recent past. These recurrent gaps are not consistent with ordinary forgetting.

*These symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
Particular identities may emerge in specific circumstances.

*Transitions from one identity to another are often triggered by psychosocial stress. In the possession-form cases of dissociative identity disorder, alternate identities are visibly obvious to people around the individual. In non-possession-form cases, most individuals do not overtly display their change in identity for long periods of time.

*People with DID may describe feeling that they have suddenly become depersonalized observers of their own speech and actions. They might report hearing voices (a child's voice, the voice of a spiritual power), and in some cases, these voices accompany multiple streams of thought that the individual has no control over. The individual might also experience sudden impulses or strong emotions that they don't feel control or a sense of ownership over. People may also report that their bodies suddenly feel different (like a small child, huge and muscular), or that they experience a sudden shift in attitudes or personal preferences before shifting back.

*Sometimes with DID experience dissociative fugues, where they discover they have traveled but have no recollection of the experience. People vary in their awareness of their amnesias, and it is common for people with DID to minimize their amnestic symptoms, even when the lapses in memory are obvious and distressing to others.

*More than 70 percent of people with DID have attempted suicide, and self-injurious behavior is common among this population. Treatment is crucial to improving quality of life and preventing suicide attempts.


GET HELP LIBASS!!!!!
 
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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #113 on: July 11, 2018, 11:16:25 AM »
darn...that is some scary stuff.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #114 on: July 11, 2018, 11:40:19 AM »
man!   just because Obama says something does not make it Absolute truth.   He did NOT have a scandal free administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/obama-administration-stonewalled-inspectors-general/

Controversies are not the same thing as scandals.  Trump's meeting with the NK dictator is a controversy, not a scandal.  Trump's family profiting from his presidency, his collusion with Putin, his campaign manager being in bed with Russians, his payoff under the table to porn stars, the behavior of his EPA administrator, those are scandals.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #115 on: July 11, 2018, 11:45:35 AM »
Controversies are not the same thing as scandals.  Trump's meeting with the NK dictator is a controversy, not a scandal.  Trump's family profiting from his presidency, his collusion with Putin, his campaign manager being in bed with Russians, his payoff under the table to porn stars, the behavior of his EPA administrator, those are scandals.

Caroline is a pathological liar and a racist.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #116 on: July 11, 2018, 12:32:52 PM »
Controversies are not the same thing as scandals.  Trump's meeting with the NK dictator is a controversy, not a scandal.  Trump's family profiting from his presidency, his collusion with Putin, his campaign manager being in bed with Russians, his payoff under the table to porn stars, the behavior of his EPA administrator, those are scandals.

I love how the left parses words and changes definitions.   Fast and furious is a scandal.   Obama sanctioned IRS targetting right wing groups is a scandal.   corruption in the FiB and DoJ and CYA are scandals, Benghazi is a scandal but what difference does that make at this point,  Obama's associations with terrorist Bill Ayers and wife is a scandal, Obama and Jarrett's slumlord work in Chicago is a scandal, Giving billions to Iran is a scandal knowing full well they'll target our military s a scandal, Giving them the money to make nukes is a scandal, Giving 2500 Iranian officials and families US citizenship IS A SCANDAL, The number of child abusers and sexual abusers in the Obama administration is a scandal, Ignoring Congress and ruling by EO is a scandal,  lying to get obamacare passed and lying to get the iran nuke deal     passed are BOTH SCANDALS...and I can go on and on and on. There is stuff this anti America radical did that will take years to resolve. Ordering spying on a political candidate and president is a scandal.   
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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #117 on: July 11, 2018, 12:36:52 PM »
I love how the left parses words and changes definitions.   Fast and furious is a scandal.   Obama sanctioned IRS targetting right wing groups is a scandal.   corruption in the FiB and DoJ and CYA are scandals, Benghazi is a scandal but what difference does that make at this point,  Obama's associations with terrorist Bill Ayers and wife is a scandal, Obama and Jarrett's slumlord work in Chicago is a scandal, Giving billions to Iran is a scandal knowing full well they'll target our military s a scandal, Giving them the money to make nukes is a scandal, Giving 2500 Iranian officials and families US citizenship IS A SCANDAL, The number of child abusers and sexual abusers in the Obama administration is a scandal, Ignoring Congress and ruling by EO is a scandal,  lying to get obamacare passed and lying to get the iran nuke deal     passed are BOTH SCANDALS...and I can go on and on and on. There is stuff this anti America radical did that will take years to resolve.

There's no changing of definitions.  Controversy and Scandal mean what they mean.  Yes, at least most of these would be scandals, if they were all real.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #118 on: July 11, 2018, 01:49:19 PM »
There's no changing of definitions.  Controversy and Scandal mean what they mean.  Yes, at least most of these would be scandals, if they were all real.

The problem is that they're not real. Of course that makes your point about "conservatives." If you want to know how they got #Hitler, my theory is that they engaged in all of these lies and phony scandals, like birtherism, and they appealed to their racist base, and that paved the way for a demagogue and a grifter like #Hitler. Low level assholes like Caroline eat it up.

"Supply-side economics" is a lie. Climate science denial is a lie. "Creation science" is a lie. Think tank wankers from the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and other phony institutions are paid big money to concoct all manner of lies and cult blather. Fox News is known to be a source of all kinds of lies. The list of "conservative" lying goes on and on and on and on.

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Re: Happy 4th of July?
« Reply #119 on: July 11, 2018, 02:07:30 PM »
Well I guess Obama CAN say he has had no scandals if you guys refuse to even see what he's done.   

  Just know that Hillary would be president if Obama had been the bestest president evah.  You got over half the country that definitely disagrees with you.  There's a clue in there.