Obama's first year: Happy Anniversary Barack!

[lucy]

Another thing is to stop overtaxing the middle-class and to demand that off-shore tax havens be taxed. It isn't right for this to have been allowed in the first place, and frankly, there is a lot of shady money that has been sent to these accounts....at least, tax them/


Giving money in huge payments to research to companies who make big money is another way to cut expenditures. It's a rob as well...

I can think of more maybe later...just some ideas to reign in some of our funds....

[johnhp]

--Go read the bill. I'm not all that interested in explaining it to you, especially since it has become a non-issue.

You do not need to explain it.  You just need to quote the provision that socializes the medical industry.

[johnhp]

Obama can issue a stop-loss order for the derivatives in place, for one thing, in the interest of national security because so much of that money was exploited for foreign interests.

Obama could also issue a moratorium of debt financing since most banking concerns were already paid billions for bad debts. In other words, the odious debts from usurious charges have been paid.

We could also do a little of what Tarpley is suggesting and start infrastructure projects to get Americans working. I mean AMERICANS, sorry...limit the availability of services for a while to illegals. They are breaking the law being here. Americans are homeless. Sad, but a fact of life and the law.

etc/

But that would be.....gaaaaaaasssssssspppppp.....



Socialism

[johnhp]

Another thing is to stop overtaxing the middle-class and to demand that off-shore tax havens be taxed. It isn't right for this to have been allowed in the first place, and frankly, there is a lot of shady money that has been sent to these accounts....at least, tax them/


Giving money in huge payments to research to companies who make big money is another way to cut expenditures. It's a rob as well...

I can think of more maybe later...just some ideas to reign in some of our funds....

Gosh Mr. Marx, why not expropriate the means of production while you are at it.

[Mornac]

You do not need to explain it.  You just need to quote the provision that socializes the medical industry.

--I don't "need" to do anything. Go find it yourself - or not. It makes no difference to me. I'm busy enjoying the failure of the coup.

[johnhp]

Mornac

Second time you have brought up the issue of an alleged takeover, second time you have retreated.

[Mornac]

Second time I don't care.

[johnhp]

Second time I don't care.

You do not care that you are unable to defend your position?  For shame.

[Mornac]

You do not care that you are unable to defend your position?  For shame.

--No, I don't care to have a useless conversation about yesterday's news with crybabies who can't get over it.

[lucy]

But that would be.....gaaaaaaasssssssspppppp.....



Socialism

Not really...it's just allocating funds in a different manner...

From Richard Cook:


"The prognosis for the U.S. economy is dim. From a larger perspective, we are at the end of the era of Keynesian economics, when the government thought all it had to do was run up more debt to stimulate the economy. When you add to that a generation of outsourcing of manufacturing jobs abroad, completely irresponsible and out-of-control behavior by the financial industry, and the cancerous growth of the military-intelligence-industrial complex and their pet wars, you have all the signs of an empire in precipitous decline.

For those who are habitually against everything the government does, I’d like to say that there are actually a few caring and intelligent people in authority these days who don’t want to see the total collapse of the U.S. as a nation, an economy, and a society. The U.S. remains the world’s largest consumer economy and the dollar the predominant currency. But the rest of the world has caught up. The Anglo-American Empire is seeing the sunset, and the choice now to be made is whether it will end peacefully or in a bang.

We can all hope for a peaceable conclusion, though it will take patience and hard work for the U.S. even to become a functioning economy on the same level as the rest of the world’s developed nations. So we can hope that the “soft landing” will work. But we still have a gigantic debt load to deal with, amounting to $60 trillion from all sources–business, government, and consumer.

We also have a gutted manufacturing sector, the huge overhead of a bloated financial industry (and their obscene bonuses), bankrupt governments at all levels, and way too many people with no real work to do like lawyers, health insurance executives, national security analysts, financial and educational bureaucrats, etc.

The short and simple answer is that we have to rebuild our economy, and our lives, from the bottom-up. We have to relearn how to do manual work like what we have mainly been asking immigrants to do for the last couple of decades. We should rebuild our local farming sector and get rid of bloated monstrosities like Monsanto. We should launch a major assault on the automobile culture and begin to revitalize cities and towns so that people can bike or walk to work or take public transportation.

It will not be easy to do these things. It may not even be possible. We have forgotten how to work because we have wanted our money to “work for us.” But that money, which only ever existed on paper, is gone. Our population is aging and not too healthy, making care of the sick and dying the only growth industry. And the young people who come out of our schools have few practical skills with which to earn a living. This must change too.

And what of investment capital? Loans are harder than ever to get. The small business sector, which could be an economic engine, is in dismal shape with lack of credit, high costs, and weakened markets for their products. Half of all new small businesses fail within one to two years of start-up.

Some say that a nation armed to the teeth and under this much pressure is likely to start a really big war out of frustration and not knowing what else to do. In other words, roll the dice. But World War II ended a long time ago. Since then, except for Vietnam, we have had our way bullying small nations. But that era has ended too. We won’t be able to do to China, Russia, and India what we did to Iraq and are trying to do to Afghanistan.

World War III would be a really bad choice. What we should do instead is take a positive attitude and sit down together and figure out ways to work our way out of this mess. But it will take a heap of humility, leadership, and willingness to face the pain of starting over again. But it could also be an adventure. After all, nation-building should begin at home."


link  http://www.richardccook.com/2010/01/21/nation-building-should-begin-at-home/

[johnhp]

--No, I don't care to have a useless conversation about yesterday's news with crybabies who can't get over it.

Mornac

You are unable to defend your position; i am sorry for making you cry.

[johnhp]

Not really...it's just allocating funds in a different manner...

According to the source you used you are talking about a huge public investment.  Unless you are suggesting that is for the exclusive and direct benefit of business, then you are talking quasi-socialism.

[makesenseplease]

Lucy,
When will you and the others like you understand that this debt would have been much greater if Obama had done nothing. Or even worse if republicans had continued doing what they were doing?

You wrote this crap almost two years ago.

You are still repeating the very same crap nearly two years later.

Perhaps it's time to stop playing the blame game.

[ivanm]

Gosh Mr. Marx, why not expropriate the means of production while you are at it.

How would that compare with driving them off shore with punitive regulations?

[Case_Closed]

You wrote this crap almost two years ago.

You are still repeating the very same crap nearly two years later.

Perhaps it's time to stop playing the blame game.

IM2's been playing The Blame Game ever since he figured out he could make some weak-willed White assholes feel guilty.