Pelosi holds clinic on how to talk to the stupid.

[Boffo]

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Just say it, and the panting liberals will lap it up
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Pelosi says new tax is 'on the table'
A new value-added tax (VAT) is "on the table" to help the U.S. address its fiscal liabilities, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday night.

Pelosi, appearing on PBS's "The Charlie Rose Show" asserted that "it's fair to look at" the VAT as part of an overhaul of the nation's tax code.

"I would say, Put everything on the table and subject it to the scrutiny that it deserves," Pelosi told Rose when asked if the VAT has any appeal to her.

The VAT is a tax on manufacturers at each stage of production on the amount of value an additional producer adds to a product.

Pelosi argued that the VAT would level the playing field between U.S. and foreign manufacturers, the latter of which do not have pension and healthcare costs included in the price of their goods because their governments provide those services, financed by similar taxes.

"They get a tax off of that and they use that money to pay the healthcare for their own workers," Pelosi said, using the example of auto manufacturers. "So their cars coming into our country don't have a healthcare component cost.

"Somewhere along the way, a value-added tax plays into this. Of course, we want to take down the healthcare cost, that's one part of it," the Speaker added. "But in the scheme of things, I think it's fair look at a value- added tax as well."

Pelosi said that any new taxes would come after the Congress finishes the healthcare debate consuming most lawmakers' time, and that it may come as part of a larger overhaul to the tax code.

The Speaker also emphasized that any reworking of the tax code would not result in an increase in taxes on middle-class Americans.

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LOL, miles of double talk about taxing EVERYTHING, and the punchline

" would not result in an increase in taxes on middle-class Americans."

uuooookkkkk, doh

[Pepsi]

I would think conservatives would support a VAT tax system which is more in line with a "flat tax"?

[Observer]

The "Flat Tax" is intended to REPLACE the Oppressive Progressive Income Tax.

Is the VAT intended to do that?

No.

[Pepsi]

I don't think there's any serious proposals on the table about this yet, but I would have to think that it would replace not supplement sales taxes in particular.    Do European counties which have implemented a VAT done away with income taxes (or any other country?)

[Observer]

I don't think there's any serious proposals on the table about this yet, but I would have to think that it would replace not supplement sales taxes in particular.    Do European counties which have implemented a VAT done away with income taxes (or any other country?)

I don't believe so.

The VAT is just ANOTHER tax stacked up on top of all the other taxes.

[Velleity]

Anyone who thinks that any particular tax scheme is inherently any better than any other is full of shit. There are only 2 real questions: 1) how much money needs to be raised; and 2) who is going to pay it?

If you don't like a progressive tax structure, tough shit. The rich have to pay the bulk of the taxes and, yes, they do have much more at stake. No one says they have to be rich.

[Velleity]

I don't believe so.

The VAT is just ANOTHER tax stacked up on top of all the other taxes.

George Bush, the man for whom your apologies have known no end, suspended current tax receipts from rich people and stacked those taxes on future generations. Moreover he drove the economy into a crisis requiring more deficits to be incurred until such time as it is clear that we're not headed for the Great Republican Depression II.

You never whine about any of that. Why don't you whine about any of that?

[Observer]

Because it is empty, mindless, and false rhetoric.

[Velleity]

Because it is empty, mindless, and false rhetoric.

You are in denial.

[Observer]

You are spreading falsehoods.

[Case_Closed]

No one says they have to be rich.

LOL