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« on: September 27, 2009, 02:30:54 PM »

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Bill Clinton predicted on Sunday that Democrats in Congress would avoid the political bloodbath during the 2010 elections that they witnessed during the first mid-term elections under his presidency.

Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press," the former president sought to calm the concerns of many within his own party that current political trends and electoral history foreshadow massive losses in the House and the Senate.

"There's no way they can make it that bad," Clinton said, when asked if he was worried about a repeat of the '94 elections, in which Republicans took over the House for the first time in 40 years.

"Number one," Clinton explained, "the country is more diverse and more interested in positive action. Number two, they've seen this movie before, because they had eight years under President Bush when the Republicans finally had the whole government, and they know the results were bad. And--[laughing]--number three, the Democrats haven't taken on the gun lobby like I did, and they took 15 of our members out. So I don't think-- it'll be, whatever happens, it'll be manageable for the president."

All of which was not to suggest that Clinton was dismissing the GOP's capacity for exacting political blood. At another point in his interview, the former president - whose legacy was, in part, defined by the loss of Congress in '94 - smarted that the so-called "vast right wing conspiracy" still exists and has its eyes set on the current White House.

"Oh, you bet," said Clinton. "Sure it is. It's not as strong as it was, because America has changed demographically. But it's as virulent as it was. I mean, they're saying things about him. You know, it's like when they accused me of murder, and all that stuff they did. ... But ... it's not really good for the Republicans and the country, what's going on now. I mean, they may be hurting President Obama. They can take his numbers down. They can run his opposition up. But, fundamentally, he and his team have a positive agenda for America. Their agenda seems to be wanting him to fail." ...

As for the 2010 elections, the current construct in House of Representatives - in which a substantial chunk of the 256 Democrats hail from traditionally conservative districts - does portend for significant (but, perhaps, not heavy) losses in the 2010 elections.

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 03:49:57 PM »

Oh, well then, I'm convinced! Grin
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 04:03:52 PM »

Have you seen the latest numbers for the support for the healthcare bill?  Of course Clinton is correct.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 04:07:21 PM »

good one Vel, but as to your source

he also said
"I did NOT have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski"

and as I recall, he was convicted by impeachment of PERJURY.

and if you Google "Clinton Lies", you just might crash their server....

sounds like somebody's whistlin past the graveyard again

if you need a wake up call, try Gallup, Zogby, Rasmussen, the folks that actually ask people where they stand.

there will be a correction/shift to the right ,but I doubt that Republicans will take control of either house in 10. A lot depends on the Obama economy, Obama's wars,Obama unemployment, Obama gas prices...in general the Obama quality of life,  and how much blatant enslavement by entitlement of the American people the Democrats try to pull.

tweet tweet,
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 04:37:29 PM »

On the other hand, Boy clinton may well be right.

My confidence in the intelligence of the voting public was irretrievably shattered by two events: the re-election of Clinton in '96 and, in Canada, the re-election of Jean Chretien in the following year.

Whenever the masses make the correct decision--as in 1980--it is usually by sheer chance and dumb luck.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 06:25:42 PM »



and as I recall, he was convicted by impeachment of PERJURY.


Illo


Impeachment is not conviction.  impeachment is bringing a charge.


But what you are missing here is that a statement about the future is a prediction, not a statement of fact.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 06:26:25 PM »

On the other hand, Boy clinton may well be right.

My confidence in the intelligence of the voting public was irretrievably shattered by two events: the re-election of Clinton in '96 and, in Canada, the re-election of Jean Chretien in the following year.

Whenever the masses make the correct decision--as in 1980--it is usually by sheer chance and dumb luck.

i think someone said that in German once.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 06:28:38 PM »

i think someone said that in German once.

Flimsier and flimsier.

Ever hear of the term 'totalitarian democracy' and the classic in political science by Talmon that dealth with it?

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 07:37:53 AM »

Flimsier and flimsier.

Ever hear of the term 'totalitarian democracy' and the classic in political science by Talmon that dealth with it?



i understand, you are an elitist who cannot stand representative government unless it comports with your prejudices.  You needn't repeat that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 07:46:55 AM »

On the other hand, Boy clinton may well be right.

My confidence in the intelligence of the voting public was irretrievably shattered by two events: the re-election of Clinton in '96 and, in Canada, the re-election of Jean Chretien in the following year.

Whenever the masses make the correct decision--as in 1980--it is usually by sheer chance and dumb luck.

Interesting. How long were you hospitalized for?
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 07:49:50 AM »

good one Vel, but as to your source

he also said
"I did NOT have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski"

and as I recall, he was convicted by impeachment of PERJURY.

and if you Google "Clinton Lies", you just might crash their server....

sounds like somebody's whistlin past the graveyard again

if you need a wake up call, try Gallup, Zogby, Rasmussen, the folks that actually ask people where they stand.

there will be a correction/shift to the right ,but I doubt that Republicans will take control of either house in 10. A lot depends on the Obama economy, Obama's wars,Obama unemployment, Obama gas prices...in general the Obama quality of life,  and how much blatant enslavement by entitlement of the American people the Democrats try to pull.

tweet tweet,

Your elves achieved some modicum of success when they dug up the blue dress, but the Big Dog remains one of the most compelling figures in public life. Al Gore's biggest mistake in 2000 was to try to distance himself from Bill. Had he not done that the election wouldn't have been close enough for the Republicans to steal.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 09:01:48 AM »

Steal?

Getting more votes from the Electoral College is "stealing"?

When you post stuff like that, I don't know whether to feel sorry for you, laugh at you, or get annoyed because you are perpetuating a lie.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 09:33:44 AM »


"Have you seen the latest numbers for the support for the healthcare bill?  Of course Clinton is correct. -johnhp

yes I have.

Have you?

do you always bleat nonsense without a hint, a clue of anything to back it up?

oh wait, I forgot, of course you do

the next time you try to propagandize, try to make it something that doesn't send your audience to the floor rolling over in uncontrollable laughter, moron

ROFLMAO
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2009, 09:56:14 AM »

"Have you seen the latest numbers for the support for the healthcare bill?  Of course Clinton is correct. -johnhp

yes I have.

Have you?


Illo

unlike you i can backup my statements.
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2009, 10:09:14 AM »

Do it.
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